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YouTube's CEO limits his kids' social media use – other tech bosses do the same

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Post by Gud »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #160
danielbarla wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Availability is definitely a factor, but I feel that a far more important aspect is that a YouTube feel is personalised. It's A/B testing you for weeks on end, and has a pretty good idea of how to get maximum engagement. TV was never this targeted, nor was there feedback to ratchet up what it suggested to you.

Kids don’t stand a chance against decades of data/research and billions of dollars weaponized against human psychology to garner as much of your attention as possible at all times.

By our generations “best and brightest”, supposedly.

At least, most well compensated.

Shame on you, if you work for these organisations.

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Post by fdsfdsfdsafdas »

orochimaaru wrote: post #65

Screen time features exist on most devices. Parents - please set them up. It doesn’t take a lot of effort. I limit my kids for 1/2 hr of screen time per day. I exclude apps like iMessage, phone and maps. Yeah - they do ask for more time here and there. But it’s pretty well controlled and they adjust to it

>It doesn’t take a lot of effort

Sorry, but that's where you're wrong (at least, if you mean enforcing effective limits). What you're asking is for parents to spend their scarce time and energy on fighting a technical battle, against a system that is designed to capture attention, and kids with nothing but energy and time.

>But it’s pretty well controlled and they adjust to it

Or they did 10 seconds of googling and have all the access they want.

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Post by rdsubhas »

The way this article is written, saying "tech boss" implies de-facto boss of the home and the child's behavior, is flat and silly.

Both parents are bosses of the home.

If one parent does not co-operate to limit social media — it's unlimited by default for the kid.

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Post by kelnos »

rdsubhas wrote: post #163

The way this article is written, saying "tech boss" implies de-facto boss of the home and the child's behavior, is flat and silly. Both parents are bosses of the home. If one parent does not co-operate to limit social media — it's unlimited by default for the kid.

No, in this context, "tech boss" refers to parents who are also executives of technology companies.

I agree with the point you make in the rest of your post, but it feels not really relevant given your misunderstanding?

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Post by conception »

naian wrote: post #115
conception wrote: post #94

This thread is person after person saying “oh wow, person who sells terrible thing for humanity doesn’t let their kids have unlimited access to terrible thing! It’s so obvious. This isn’t news.” The news is that the CEO of youtube is saying that Youtube is something that should be limited and he thinks harm will come to his children if he does not. This may be obvious to people on this site but a lot of normal people…

I doubt “a lot of people” think spending all day watching YouTube is fine; this sounds hyperbolic.

Studies on screen time with toddlers and infants don’t paint a rosy picture on it.

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Post by kelnos »

websiteapi wrote: post #132
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are HN you know how to RTFM, I guess. The Fix: Lock it Down: Go to Settings > Screen Time. Tap Turn On Screen Time (if not already on) and set it up for your child. Tap Use Screen Time Passcode and create a passcode that the child doesn't know. Go to Content & Privacy Restrictions (under Screen Time) and turn it on. Tap Allowed Apps (to disable camera/other apps if needed) and Change Restrictions. Under Conten…

The problem with this is you’re creating a dichotomy. Some apps have good content that could be consumed indefinitely, which is beyond the scope of these controls. Simplest example to point this out is if the parental controls only had things to limit phone usage generally without per app controls.

I don't think it's a good idea too let a kid "consume content" indefinitely from any platform.

Hell, same goes for adults...

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Post by kelnos »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #143
iteria wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People give this excuse but somehow I feel like they would be less charitable if it was any othet addictive thing. "Oh, Timmy had a drinking problem at 13? Well we can't blame the parents. They don't have the mental or emotional strength to keep their kid out of the liquor cabinet. How ever could they know about locks?" That's what this feels like to me. As someone who is watching this happen in real time with my kid…

You can have a healthy relationship with screens at 13. You can’t have a healthy relationship with alcohol at 13.

True, but that doesn't invalidate the GP's point.

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Post by codedokode »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #160
danielbarla wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Availability is definitely a factor, but I feel that a far more important aspect is that a YouTube feel is personalised. It's A/B testing you for weeks on end, and has a pretty good idea of how to get maximum engagement. TV was never this targeted, nor was there feedback to ratchet up what it suggested to you.

Kids don’t stand a chance against decades of data/research and billions of dollars weaponized against human psychology to garner as much of your attention as possible at all times.

Kids should own a device with "adult" bit set to 0, so that they can only use government-approved applications and sites. Why government? Because parents are too lazy or dumb to configure anything and 90% will just let their children access whatever they want and the rest 10% will feel like losers who cannot watch the things all their classmates are allowed to watch.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

kelnos wrote: post #167
Forgeties79 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can have a healthy relationship with screens at 13. You can’t have a healthy relationship with alcohol at 13.

True, but that doesn't invalidate the GP's point.

If that example is supposed to illustrate his point then yes it does on some level. It’s a major flaw. That’s why I pointed it out.
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