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Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Re: Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Post by leptons »

nl wrote: post #95
leptons wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it's probably nowhere near the size of the money-pit that "AI" currently is in.

You realize that AI is driving huge advertising growth at Meta, right? > Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, reported strong second-quarter 2025 earnings, driven primarily by robust advertising revenue growth. Total revenue reached US$47.52 billion, up 22% from last year, with advertising accounting for $46.56 billion, an increase of 21%, surpassing Wall Street expectations. The growth was fuelled by…

You realize that Zuck is trying to produce AGI, which is a money pit deeper than anything he's ever thrown money away on.

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Post by fmajid »

dazamarquez wrote: post #47

Is Wang even able to achieve superintelligence? Is anyone? I'm unable to make sense of Wang's compensation package. What actual, practical skills does he bring to the table? Is this all a stunt to drive Meta's stock value?

Wang never led a frontier lab. He founded a company that uses hlow-paid uman intelligence to label training data. But clearly he is as slick a schmoozer as Sam Altman to have taken in a seasoned operator like Zuckerberg.

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Post by anon84873628 »

Eisenstein wrote: post #156
anon84873628 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ability to create an internal model of the world and run simulations/predictions on it in order to optimize the actions that lead to a goal. Bigger, more detailed models and more accurate prediction power are more intelligent.

How do you know if something is creating an internal model of the world?

Look at the physical implementation of how it computes.

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Post by Eisenstein »

anon84873628 wrote: post #163
Eisenstein wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know if something is creating an internal model of the world?

Look at the physical implementation of how it computes.

So you are making the determination based on the method, not on the outcome.

Re: Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Post by anon84873628 »

Eisenstein wrote: post #164
anon84873628 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at the physical implementation of how it computes.

So you are making the determination based on the method, not on the outcome.

Did I ever promise otherwise? Intelligence is inherently computational, and needs a physical substrate. You can understand it both by interacting with the black box and opening up the box.

Re: Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Post by Ragnarockooo »

bloppe wrote: post #66
zkmon wrote: post #18

Meta should replace Mr Z with a bit sane person. At this point, he is like a mad emperor.

Zuck has unilateral majority voting power. This was probably a good thing during the financial crisis, but appears to be more of a liability these days.

Zuck having unilateral majority voting power is a core reason why Facebook is a $1T+ company.
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