My web-dev friend saw the original Space Jam site. I asked him what it would cost to build something like that today. He paused and said:
We can’t. We don’t know how to do it.
I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
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Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
#162Why not just feed it the actual instructions that create the site - the page source code, the HTML, CSS, JS if any?
This may be an even greater challenge: analysing a table layout and recreating it in CSS with absolute positioning.
Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
#163I think claude could have easily used a script to calculate the positions of the planets exactly here, instead of trying to use the frankly horrible image recognition.
Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
#164Claude/LLMs in general are still pretty bad at the intricate details of layouts and visual things. There are a lot of problems that are easy to get right for a junior web dev but impossible for an LLM. On the other hand, I was able to write a C program that added gamma color profile support to linux compositors that don't support it (in my case Hyprland) within a few minutes! A - for me - seemingly hard task, which w…
Claude didn't write that code. Someone else did and Claude took that code without credit to the original author(s), adapted it to your use case and then presented it as its own creation to you and you accepted this. If a human did this we probably would have a word for them.
Software engineer? You think I cite all the code I’ve ever seen before when I reproduce it? That I even remember where it comes from?
Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's an interesting hypothesis : that LLM are fundamentally unable to produce original code. Do you have papers to back this up ? That was also my reaction when i saw some really crazy accurate comments on some vibe coded piece of code, but i couldn't prove it, and thinking about it now i think my intuition was wrong (ie : LLMs do produce original complex code).
We can solve that question in an intuitive way: if human input is not what is driving the output then it would be sufficient to present it with a fraction of the current inputs, say everything up to 1970 and have it generate all of the input data from 1970 onwards as output. If that does not work then the moment you introduce AI you cap their capabilities unless humans continue to create original works to feed the AI…
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Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
#166Claude/LLMs in general are still pretty bad at the intricate details of layouts and visual things. There are a lot of problems that are easy to get right for a junior web dev but impossible for an LLM. On the other hand, I was able to write a C program that added gamma color profile support to linux compositors that don't support it (in my case Hyprland) within a few minutes! A - for me - seemingly hard task, which w…
Why is this something a Wayland compositor (a glorified window manager) needs to worry about? Apple figured this out back in the 1990s with ColorSync and they did it once for the Mac OS and any application that wanted colour management could use the ColorSync APIs.
Color management infrastructure is intricate. To grossly simplify: somehow you need to connect together the profile and LUT for each display, upload the LUTs to the display controller, and provide appropriate profile data for each window to their respective processes. During compositing then convert buffers that don't already match the output (unmanaged applications will probably be treated as sRGB, color managed graphics apps will opt out of conversion and do whatever is correct for their purpose).
Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
#167Building something similar - using Claude API to generate mini games from text descriptions ( https://codorex.com , still pretty rough). Can confirm: Claude is weirdly good at generating functional game logic from vague prompts, but spatial precision is a constant battle. Anything involving exact pixel positions needs validation/correction layers on top. The suggestion upthread about having it write its own measureme…
Actually, here's a relevant example - had Claude generate an interactive solar system with circular orbits and moons: https://codorex.com/shared/yeABdJWvRHAKqHs2kxpRnZNZPWmqWSu9
Interesting that it handles this fine (functional orbital mechanics, animation) but would probably struggle to recreate the exact pixel positions of the Space Jam layout. Confirms the pattern: good at "make something like X" but bad at "recreate X exactly."
Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's an interesting hypothesis : that LLM are fundamentally unable to produce original code. Do you have papers to back this up ? That was also my reaction when i saw some really crazy accurate comments on some vibe coded piece of code, but i couldn't prove it, and thinking about it now i think my intuition was wrong (ie : LLMs do produce original complex code).
We can solve that question in an intuitive way: if human input is not what is driving the output then it would be sufficient to present it with a fraction of the current inputs, say everything up to 1970 and have it generate all of the input data from 1970 onwards as output. If that does not work then the moment you introduce AI you cap their capabilities unless humans continue to create original works to feed the AI…
I like your test. Should we also apply to specific humans?
We all stand on the shoulders of giants and learn by looking at others’ solutions.
Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
This should be the strap line for all AI (so far)
That's fair. But I always think of it as an intern I am paying $20 a month for or $200 a month. I would be kind of shocked if they could do everything as well as I'd hoped for that price point. It's fascinating for me and worth the money. I am lucky that I don't depend on this for work at a corporation. I'd be pulling my hair out if some boss said "You are going to be doing 8 times as much work using our corporate AI…
Don get me wrong, doing 80% of my work for me is still great. And I’m actually quite glad I’m still needed for the other 20%
Re: I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's an interesting hypothesis : that LLM are fundamentally unable to produce original code. Do you have papers to back this up ? That was also my reaction when i saw some really crazy accurate comments on some vibe coded piece of code, but i couldn't prove it, and thinking about it now i think my intuition was wrong (ie : LLMs do produce original complex code).
Pick up a book about programming from seventies or eighties that was unlikely to be scanned and feed into LLM. Take a task from it and ask LLM to write a program from it that even a student can solve within 10 minutes. If the problem was not really published before, LLM fails spectacularly.
Sometimes its generated, and many times its not. Trivial to denote, but its been deemed non of your business.