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Re: Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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Wow if Netflix buys hbo there isn’t really anything more left in the market to compete with them. On the plus side users don’t have to worry about paying for multiple services.

It will be Netflix and Disney as the prominent players with Apple and Amazon representing the high end prestige TV and lowest common denominator content, respectively.

I find Apple to be different lowest common denominator with high production value. I don't think the shows are really any better.

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Yuck!! My ex forced me into getting a Netflix subscription because she was dying to watch Stranger Things. It wasn't half bad for the simple reason I grew up in the 80's. The only thing I binge watched was Black Mirror, Sense 8 and a few documentaries. Since I was forced to get a subscription, thankfully I never gave those bastards my CC info. I just created an account and went to Target or Walmart and bought a coupl…

If someone didn't know their Star Wars, I'd run the other way too

I've not seen any of the Star Wars franchise. Its never interested me.

Re: Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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If your metric is only detective stories… i guess? But if you actually compare the quality of anything recent notable from HBO it's not even close. HBO cinematography, production quality, editing, script… its all levels above Netflix. Pick anything The White Lotus, Euphoria, The Last of Us, Peacemaker. Really anything. Netflix feels like everything is cheap. Maybe Ripley was nice but thats it?

The last Stranger Things series, of all things, is probably the single most expensive media production in history. More expensive than Marvel films, than both Avatars, than all of Games of Thrones, than Rings of Power per episode… It even dwarfs the budgets of the biggest games ever and is roughly on the level of the upcoming GTA 6. It’s completely mad! For a quaint small-scale mild-horror story set in the 80s. I get…

But Stranger Things also feels kinda cheap. I am not sure what is it but there is just this "movie feel" that HBO production often achieve (Apple TV does this too) but with netflix it just isn't there. Not sure why.

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We have had 20 years of comic book movies and endless sequels from the major studios. Let's not pretend that James "Avatar" Cameron is deep.

I mean compare: Dune, The Last of Us, Industry, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Succession, Silicon Valley, Westworld, Eastbound & Down, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Oz, etc.. to any NFLX original programming.

I don't disagree broadly (other than to fault you for not including The Wire!), but the counterpoint is: House of Cards, Queen's Gambit, Stranger Things, Dark, Ozark, Orange is the New Black, Mindhunter, Squid Game, Adolescence, Narcos, The Crown, Godless, Dept Q, etc.

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Mindhunter was cancelled for being too expensive.

There must be more to that story. Netflix, HBO, BBC and a bunch of others keep pumping out these kinds of crime dramas exactly because they are quite conservative bets. They are extremely cheap to produce, a handful of mid-range actors on very mundane locations. They can stay as a miniseries or expand later on as wanted. And if the writing is good some of them become incredibly popular and profitable. I mean, the las…

Fincher shoots for very long, does a lot of takes, lights everything like a film. Likely spends a lot of time in the editing room either himself directly or tinkering with the directors that direct the other episodes.

Notice how Mindhunter didn’t “look” like other Netflix shows. The reason for that is they lit it like a movie. And that takes time and money.

I work in the industry. The reason Netflix shows look a certain way is because they are not given the time to do it differently and are shooting almost documentary style or at least much much faster than a regular “prestige” show. Now a good director DP duo can still make this look good, even though it’s hard to do 20 set ups (low budget speed) instead of 5-10 a day (high budget). But that velocity means you shoot at twice the speed. Which is huge considering film costs are people costs. Production is often the expensive segment of a show like Mindhunter.

Fincher likely wouldn’t have agreed to drop episode count or shoot them faster, so they didn’t continue.

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