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Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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bonsai_spool wrote: post #87
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the 1980s, the American Heart Association listed many contributors to heart disease. A missing one: smoking. At some point, it was revealed that Big Tobacco was a major contributor to the AHA. They now list tobacco as a big risk factor.

> In the 1980s, the American Heart Association listed many contributors to heart disease. > A missing one: smoking. > At some point, it was revealed that Big Tobacco was a major contributor to the AHA. > They now list tobacco as a big risk factor. https://www.heart.org/en/bold-hearts-the-centennial/100-year... Taking on tobacco was no small task at mid-century, when more than half of men and a third of women smoked.…

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Post by neximo64 »

afavour wrote: post #131
aurareturn wrote: post #14

- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are In think the point is that they don’t need to know what Gemini is, they just need to know Google, which they most definitely do. IMO ads rollout won’t be as simple as you’re describing it. A lot of people have switched from Google search to AI specifically because it isn’t filled with SEO, ad filled nonsense. So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to in…

> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are

That's actually changed a while ago.

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Post by bonsai_spool »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #140
monooso wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. At least you provided a source for your comment, unlike GP.

I agree. My only source was from personal experience. I saw the ads, myself, and remember when it changed. I think that the article may be a bit of "damage control." Gave it a +1.

> I saw the ads, myself, and remember when it changed.

Fair enough, I guess their public policy position doesn't necessarily inform how they conduct advertising.

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Post by glenstein »

isodev wrote: post #132
aurareturn wrote: post #14

- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

> - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products Doesn’t anyone think this is really, really bad idea? We managed to radicalise people into the rise and fall of entire countries through analog ads, can you imagine how devastating it would be to infuse every digital product with all that?

>Doesn’t anyone think this is really, really bad idea?

I mean I do. And you do. Probably a lot of people in this thread. I felt that way about Netflix doing it, but they did and the world just moved on.

I think you're right that these ads will be, in a sense, worse, but not by the metrics that matter to OpenAI.

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Post by ethmarks »

Zetaphor wrote: post #149
afavour wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are In think the point is that they don’t need to know what Gemini is, they just need to know Google, which they most definitely do. IMO ads rollout won’t be as simple as you’re describing it. A lot of people have switched from Google search to AI specifically because it isn’t filled with SEO, ad filled nonsense. So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to in…

And yet most of the people I know, including many technical ones, default to ChatGPT before Google's AI Studio. Google has general brand awareness, but ChatGPT has become the Bandaid or Kleenex of AI

Fun fact: that's called a generic trademark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark

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Post by codybontecou »

darkamaul wrote: post #55

Hoping this pushes a new generation of adblockers, but I'm skeptical it'll stay a fair fight. The next wave of ads will likely be far subtler than today's web ads - more integrated into content, harder to detect, and easier to normalize.

We'll hopefully (?) end up with a local llm-layer that filters ads within our browser.

I imagine we'll have a chrome extension that recognizes unwanted content and removes the text.

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

astura wrote: post #155
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the 1980s, the American Heart Association listed many contributors to heart disease. A missing one: smoking. At some point, it was revealed that Big Tobacco was a major contributor to the AHA. They now list tobacco as a big risk factor.

This is straight up just a bold faced lie. Big Tobacco never funded the American Heart Association. AHA never purposefully ommited smoking as a cause of heart disease. In fact, they were at the forefront of the research to prove a link between smoking and heart disease. They met with the The Surgeon General in 1961 to request the formation of the Advisory Committee on Smoking and Health. Report can be viewed here - h…

> Big Tobacco never funded the American Heart Association.

Yeah...not so sure about that. Tobacco has been pretty sneaky, in funding stuff (see the NIH article on stress research).

A lot of this stuff is only starting to come to light, because folks are able to scan databases of historical information.

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Post by cgriswald »

solumunus wrote: post #85
jon-wood wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn’t backed by the constant conspiracy theories about voice assistants listening to everything you say and then farming that off to third party ad providers so that you see ads for things you’ve been discussing.

People moan about that but it doesn’t change their consumer habits at all.

I’m not certain about that, but it’s all very abstract to people. It is also tied to their phones for most people which they’d never give up anyway.

The more direct connection on something they don’t (yet) value as much as they value their phones might be a bridge too far.

An LLM feels like a person to a lot of people. It might be surprisingly difficult to avoid people feeling betrayed or creeped out by this “person”. No one has ever done this before and it doesn’t seem easy or like a straightforward win.

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Post by mejutoco »

aurareturn wrote: post #14

- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

I do not understand why the conversation is always about showing ads in chatgpt. Can they not track users there without ads and sell ad space on websites like google ads? Why ruin the experience there when they can highly target ads. I am guessing they prefer both.

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Post by boppo1 »

jennyholzer wrote: post #141

IMO OpenAI is the contemporary manifestation of the sort of eugenicist thought that infected and eventually haunted the United States and Europe in the 19th and 20th centuries. I can't speak for other cultures, but as an English-language speaker, I can see plainly that OpenAI has done and is doing an effective job of homogenizing English language culture. It offends me that ChatGPT is too conservative to analyze Shak…

I'm very open about sex and art and I am offended by the censorship in models, but my reading of that line is more with chatgpt. But idk Shakespeare at all. Can you elaborate on how he's definitely describing semen on her?
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