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> I like to believe the adults are more likely to run the numbers and say "hang on, rolling back industrial society for no obvious reason is a terrible idea I guess you're a climate change denier, there's little to discuss then
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_Temperature_And_Fo... ?
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Greta Thunberg achieved nothing useful in practice and if the best mascot for a movement is an autistic teenager it bodes poorly for that movement's chances. She personally is perfectly successful, but in terms of political effectiveness people should model themselves off movements that achieved something.
To me it seems that she achieved a lot, compared to the rest of the activists. The opposite forces were too strong in the end, but that doesn't mean that she didn't do a lot. I'm not sure I see any problem with an autistic teenager as a "mascot"; I know how much a political area despises her, but if they treated a child like that, they would probably have done much worse with a normal adult. But of course she's not e…
Supporting NGOs like https://edri.org, https://fsfe.org.
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But the national governments are the ones who gave themselves that power in the first place. Because they wanted to be able to do shit like this. Hopefully the EU Parliament will stop them. But the takeaway from this shouldn't be: "screw the EU", it should be: make the EU more democratic, and give more power to the parliament and less to the backroom machinations of member states. That's exactly what the pro-EU refor…
If it were national governments making laws like this (as opposed to the EU), citizens would be free to move to other European countries that respected their basic civil liberties. The first country that implemented Chat Control would suffer immediate brain drain, and it would be a lesson to governments elsewhere. However, because the EU forces all countries to move in lock-step, it means citizens are denied the free…
I left the UK because of the Investigatory Powers Act, and because Brexit would make it hard to fight that act. I used my freedom of movement within the EU to get to an EU nation. Did the UK "suffer immediate brain drain"? Not from Brexit, from the Investigatory Powers Act.
The EU "lockstep" (except not really, see a few weeks ago) on stuff like this happen because the governments all talk to each other and negotiate their positions. It's not nefarious, it's basically the same as any other government having a debate in a parliamentary setting. Difference is, the EU needs either a supermajority or a unanimous result depending on the topic, it's not generally enough for them to have a simple majority like national governments do.
Chat control is QMV. Tougher to get that than any legislation in, say, the UK parliament.