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California DMV approves map increase in Waymo driverless operations

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Re: California DMV approves map increase in Waymo driverless operations

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Post by AndrewDucker »

dmix wrote: post #160
AndrewDucker wrote: post #157

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Expecting a taxi you've booked to actually pick you up is entitlement? What kind of terrible service do you put up with for this to seem reasonable to you?

Not sure how old you are but I spent half my adult life dealing with a government regulated Taxi medallion system and the other half using Uber in multiple countries and I’d 100% take “post-VC” Uber over old taxis every single time. FWIW they both still exist so you’re free to choose, which is the nice thing about competition. Pre booked airport black car taxis have always been a niche within the wider system for a g…

53, and I live in Edinburgh, where the taxis are well regulated and if one takes a rider then they have to fulfil it.

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Post by mh- »

drob518 wrote: post #149
mh- wrote: post #137

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Book Uber Black and 99% of those issues go away. Have taken more Ubers than I'd like to admit, so I'm comfortable calling this a large enough sample size to qualify as anecdata.

Remember back when Uber was basically 100% Uber Black? That was nice.

Yep, I used it back when it first rolled out in SF in 2010 or 2011. All black crown vics.

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Post by benatkin »

astrange wrote: post #46
benatkin wrote: post #16

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It appears not to be. Here are the ones in Santa Clara County: - Milpitas - Mountain View - Palo Alto Santa - San Jose - Sunnyvale - Unincorporated Area (Lexington Hills area, overlapping Santa Clara and Santa Cruz Counties) I don't know why it says "Palo Alto Santa" Edit: I guess it's "Palo Alto Santa" to disambiguate between Palo Alto, which is in Santa Clara County, and East Palo Alto, which is in San Mateo County…

It looks like the map includes north of 280, so you can use it to go to Gamba Karaoke and Tea Era. And really, what else could you need from Cupertino?

It might be that you can start a trip in one of the cities, but you can travel out of the city to anywhere in the highlighted area.

Re: California DMV approves map increase in Waymo driverless operations

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Post by astrange »

astrange wrote: post #72
piva00 wrote: post #41

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Also, if state government was Tokyo-level of public service then CA would have had decent public transportation a very long time ago, eradicating a huge part of the value proposal of Waymo.

Japan Rail is public-private and many of the other train lines are fully private. "Public" is kind of an empty distinction here, Americans associate the two concepts because they think mass transit is a kind of gift you give to poor people instead of something everyone actually uses. But there is plenty of need for car-shaped transit in Japan and people take taxis and use cars all the time. You might have luggage/equ…

I checked (asked ChatGPT) and apparently Google Maps does do this now.

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Post by willio58 »

bitpush wrote: post #29
willio58 wrote: post #26

I didn’t think I’d be so pro Waymo but anecdotally I had a fantastic experience with one recently. I was at a music show very late ~1-2am in SF and walked out to grab an uber to the airbnb I was staying at. I kept getting assigned an uber, then I’d wait 10 minutes, then they’d cancel. Rinse and repeat for 30 minutes, mind you I even resorted to calling Lyfts at the same time and nothing bit. Then I say screw it and d…

Curious why didn't you try Waymo until then? Was it just that it never had a reason to, or was something holding you back? From my experience, lot of people actively seek out Waymo if it is available.

I don’t live in SF, or any place with Waymo. So I really just hadn’t downloaded the app yet

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Post by willio58 »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #115
willio58 wrote: post #26

I didn’t think I’d be so pro Waymo but anecdotally I had a fantastic experience with one recently. I was at a music show very late ~1-2am in SF and walked out to grab an uber to the airbnb I was staying at. I kept getting assigned an uber, then I’d wait 10 minutes, then they’d cancel. Rinse and repeat for 30 minutes, mind you I even resorted to calling Lyfts at the same time and nothing bit. Then I say screw it and d…

If you're playing it via Spotify, it's not your music, it's Spotify's. Waymo is cool technology but I am disappointed at how the app requires a Google account plus access to google play services on an Android phone, and how the streaming music feature requires some kind of protocol that only Spotify and some proprietary Google music app support. All of my music is stored on a personal server that I stream to my phone…

Yeah it was a little odd how I had to connect things, like I definitely would have preferred a simple Bluetooth connection so I could just play truly whatever is on my phone.

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Post by nemothekid »

davidw wrote: post #159
nemothekid wrote: post #138

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As I understand it, unless the fleet size dramatically increases, the cost of a ride is completely determined by supply/demand.

How long does it take to recoup the cost of the automobile and all the tech stuff they add to it?

As I understand it, whatever it costs, is strictly less than the market dynamics of providing the ride today.

There is probably some market equilibrium where they could reasonably provide <5 minute pickups for waymo users that would both cover the cost of the automobile and still be less than the price of an uber today.

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