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Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by rileymat2 »

captain_coffee wrote: post #156
tgma wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BBC is UK propaganda and fine; Arabnews is Saudi propaganda and not fine. Who are you to judge?

BBC, literally one of the most reliable news sources in the world is according to you "UK propaganda". Feel free to expand on this

There was a recent scandal with respect to a misleading quote from a news story about President Trump and the General Director and Head of News resigned.

Yes, it would have been better if they had not spliced the clips so closely together, but that does show a commitment to taking its role seriously.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by rileymat2 »

tgma wrote: post #159
captain_coffee wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BBC, literally one of the most reliable news sources in the world is according to you "UK propaganda". Feel free to expand on this

The GP felt it is okay to disparage Arab News solely because they are funded by the Saudis, which evidently they don't like. By the same standards, the BBC is literally funded by another state, the UK. Both are state funded media, thus propaganda almost by definition. Remember, propaganda does not have to be false or unreliable. (Although, ironically, BBC right now is in trouble for deceptive portrayal of Trump.) Hac…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_News

The newspaper has been described as "a mouthpiece for the Saudi regime" by Qatari-owned The New Arab,[24] and regarded as "reflecting official Saudi Arabian government position" by the Associated Press and Haaretz.[5]

This is much different than the BBC which attempts to maintain independence.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by tgma »

rileymat2 wrote: post #162
tgma wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GP felt it is okay to disparage Arab News solely because they are funded by the Saudis, which evidently they don't like. By the same standards, the BBC is literally funded by another state, the UK. Both are state funded media, thus propaganda almost by definition. Remember, propaganda does not have to be false or unreliable. (Although, ironically, BBC right now is in trouble for deceptive portrayal of Trump.) Hac…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_News The newspaper has been described as "a mouthpiece for the Saudi regime" by Qatari-owned The New Arab,[24] and regarded as "reflecting official Saudi Arabian government position" by the Associated Press and Haaretz.[5] This is much different than the BBC which attempts to maintain independence.

> This is much different than the BBC which attempts to maintain independence.

Independence? That's just your opinion. They are clearly better at marketing than the Saudis.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by rileymat2 »

tgma wrote: post #163
rileymat2 wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_News The newspaper has been described as "a mouthpiece for the Saudi regime" by Qatari-owned The New Arab,[24] and regarded as "reflecting official Saudi Arabian government position" by the Associated Press and Haaretz.[5] This is much different than the BBC which attempts to maintain independence.

> This is much different than the BBC which attempts to maintain independence. Independence? That's just your opinion. They are clearly better at marketing than the Saudis.

Widely held: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_independence

The corporate governance is significantly different as well.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by tgma »

rileymat2 wrote: post #164
tgma wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is much different than the BBC which attempts to maintain independence. Independence? That's just your opinion. They are clearly better at marketing than the Saudis.

Widely held: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_independence The corporate governance is significantly different as well.

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Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by rileymat2 »

tgma wrote: post #165
rileymat2 wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Widely held: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_independence The corporate governance is significantly different as well.

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I'd make the case that the resignations are a good thing. It shows a commitment to journalism as a profession.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by kcplate »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #119
kcplate wrote: post #103

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Ahh yes, the old “let’s outlaw those things I don’t like, but others do that has billion dollar industries supporting it” approach. That always goes over well.

Is there a better argument for golf courses than “think of the jobs”?

Sure. It’s a recreation that many people get joy from doing…

Just because it may not be “your thing”…doesn’t mean it’s not worth having.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by tgma »

rileymat2 wrote: post #166
tgma wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'd make the case that the resignations are a good thing. It shows a commitment to journalism as a profession.

Sure, one can debate this ad nauseam. I would even concede that on average, BBC is perhaps more reliable than Arab News. However, if your standard is ArabNews not OK because Saudi government funds it, but BBC OK, you might just as well say it in plain English that you simply don't like the opinion of the Saudi government but on board with the UK's (which is a stance that by the way I mostly share, but refuse to preach on a neutral forum like Hacker News as policy.) I would not be surprised that for some stories, Arab News would be a better source than BBC.

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by maltalex »

tgma wrote: post #159
captain_coffee wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BBC, literally one of the most reliable news sources in the world is according to you "UK propaganda". Feel free to expand on this

The GP felt it is okay to disparage Arab News solely because they are funded by the Saudis, which evidently they don't like. By the same standards, the BBC is literally funded by another state, the UK. Both are state funded media, thus propaganda almost by definition. Remember, propaganda does not have to be false or unreliable. (Although, ironically, BBC right now is in trouble for deceptive portrayal of Trump.) Hac…

You don’t see a difference between a major news outlet from a democratic country which has freedom of speech and an outlet from a religious monarchy which has no notion of free speech or even human rights?

Re: Iran begins cloud seeding operations as drought bites

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Post by tgma »

maltalex wrote: post #169
tgma wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GP felt it is okay to disparage Arab News solely because they are funded by the Saudis, which evidently they don't like. By the same standards, the BBC is literally funded by another state, the UK. Both are state funded media, thus propaganda almost by definition. Remember, propaganda does not have to be false or unreliable. (Although, ironically, BBC right now is in trouble for deceptive portrayal of Trump.) Hac…

You don’t see a difference between a major news outlet from a democratic country which has freedom of speech and an outlet from a religious monarchy which has no notion of free speech or even human rights?

UK does not have Freedom of Speech.
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