A new documentary about the history of forced psychiatric treatment in Spain

What epic creation, I probably couldn't stomach reading or viewing this material in any other format.

This is the original programming. You might visualize it complete with a bug tracker, version control, patches, feature updates and programming languages. We can only see it when absurd enough but it gets much more absurd than this and the software may run for thousands of years.

I remember reading and seeing videos about training child soldiers. The weak or injured ones were killed as hunting targets and the more they killed the higher their rank. In the final ceremony that completes the training they had to shoot their parents. It was a great honor and they truly enjoyed it.

We have to remember death is nowhere near the worse punishment. It might be the nicest thing on the list.

Perhaps it is even worse if people don't notice they are in a similar program because it has been refined to such extend.

Imagine if you left the house without clothing. Like a default human, like any other species, or if you like, how god put you on this earth.

Or say, who decided you must use language? Not just that, you must say the correct things at the correct time.

If you get the dress code wrong, fail to speak or construct the wrong sentences well conditioned people from all over the world will come to beat you back in line.

We force the little ones to sit on designed to be uncomfortable chairs the whole day, the entire week. They must sit, not move, shut up and listen.

Someone once "rescued" a small child living on a garbage heap. Gave him foster parents and put him in school. The kid escaped, he went back to playing in the garbage. When asked why he said he wanted to play with his friends. With a look on his face as if he was talking to a crazy person. It was obvious he didn't want to sit, shut up and not move.... forever?

Seems to me we have many bug reports to fill and that patches are welcome. Our cult is far from perfect.

| often provides governments with an excuse for greater repression.

Fallacious assumption. They don't need an excuse. They will invent one if they feel it is required.

"Look what you made me do" is the logic of abusers, large and small.

No amount of conspicuous rule-following will stop them from calling you a genetically violent degenerate, unworthy of compassion when it suits their ends. Nothing will stop them from revoking your right to exist at a moment's notice.

This isn't to say that we shouldn't do what it takes to survive, but harm-reduction and resistance are different things altogether.

Solidarity and primarily non-violent resistance are my preferences, and I believe they are also the preference of most people, until circumstances drastically deteriorate.

However, I'm not going to second-guess a molotov thrown by a teenager's friend 50 years ago in Franco's Spain. Especially when the response to that incident was 3 years of psychological and medical torture. The scales are not balanced, and our focus should be on the people that actually wielded power for great evil, rather than ahistorical hypotheticals.

| [I]t was saying that violence was definitely the right thing to do.

| I believe that one of the criteria for morally justifying violence has to be that the consequences or using violence as better than any available non-violent alternative. I think that is a fundamental different of values.

You are demanding that individuals who are being harmed by ongoing state violence see all possible futures and choose the optimal one for most people (themselves excluded). In so doing, you hold individuals living under unceasingly violent regimes to a much higher standard than the regime itself, which is free to act in arbitrary ways. This is an utterly unbalanced position that demands passivity or flight.

| I am a lot less of an arm-chair observer than I guess you are.

I will not discuss my situation online, probably not for a decade. That said, I am sorry you had to live through what you did, and I am glad you made it out. I still weep for those who we've lost, even as I write this. We all deserve a better, kinder world.

As a point of reconciliation, and without pulling directly from current conflicts. I think that if every British agent in Sri Lanka perpetrating the ‘Divide and Rule’ Strategy had been exiled or killed in 1815 (with violence and malice aforethought), the history that you had to endure would have been orders of magnitude less bloody, do you disagree?

When asked why they captured and locked up their daughter, twice, they replied "We suffered a lot too". They expressed only rage at their loss of status when confronting her initially.

Based on disclosed facts, actions taken (that are not in dispute), and statements by the perpetrators themselves before and after the fact, we can conclude that her parents do in fact care more about their own 'suffering' and 'status', more than their daughter's physical and emotional well-being.

You, on the other hand, just made shit up from whole cloth, but are too pathetic to stand on business and disagree directly.

If I could assign remedial reading comprehension lessons to anyone on Earth, today, I would choose you.

25. You said it yourself

This is horrifying. "There oughtta be a law" is my first reaction... What a useless thought. This is one of those examples of "the details matter". "Tough love", or "tough on crime", or other such empty utterances are useful only to give catharsis to a subset of people, and always the subset who are not subject to this torture. Society needs ritual sacrifice, I guess... How depressing. If the details are made obvious, I suspect meant would think twice about such treatment.