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Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by 1123581321 »

verelo wrote: post #43
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

You forget, the camera gets better every year! I've had an iphone for 15 years. I mean, it's fine...i just wish there was incentive for durability and sustainability v's replace it every 12-24 months. I guess sustainability concerns at Apple ends at ensuring their stock price is sustainable.

You make a point, but it’s hard to square valuing sustainability with that kind of personal replacement rate when the supported life is several years. That said, your old phone is either being resold or parted, and and the valuable materials from unusable parts are recovered through disassembly.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by lotsofpulp »

pbh101 wrote: post #129
bitpush wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple pissed off both devs and megacorps by keeping the ecosystem closed This was so incredible to see play out in real time. You know where else this is happening now? Car makers and CarPlay. CarPlay might be objectively better but car makers are giving them the boot, for very good reason. Apple overplayed their hand (or as you say, was incredibly greedy) and now they get to live with the consequences.

Tesla announced they are adding it this week. Ford’s CEO expressed glee at GM removing it. There isn’t a CarPlay App Store nor downloads to get 30% from (or if there were, they’d appreciably be enabled by Apple’s platform as we aren’t in the habit of subscribing to or buying apps for our car today), and while we don’t know the licensing terms from the GM removal it sounded like privacy violations and extra subscripti…

Tesla did not announce it. Bloomberg published an article speculating it. And Bloomberg has been wrong before.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-13/tesla-is-...

>Tesla Inc. is developing support for Apple Inc.’s CarPlay system in its vehicles, according to people with knowledge of the matter, working to add one of the most highly requested features by customers.

>The carmaker has started testing the capability internally, according to the people, who asked not to be identified because the effort is still private.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by gcanyon »

harshalizee wrote: post #61
verelo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forget, the camera gets better every year! I've had an iphone for 15 years. I mean, it's fine...i just wish there was incentive for durability and sustainability v's replace it every 12-24 months. I guess sustainability concerns at Apple ends at ensuring their stock price is sustainable.

What do you do with your phones that it doesn't last more than 24 months? I've had only two iPhones for almost 11 years. An iphone 6s and currently an iPhone 13 mini there entire time. They're solidly reliable

Similar -- I'm currently nursing a 13 mini (the lightning port barely works, so I'm on magsafe). and before that I had an iPhone XS I think -- that one I managed to break the screen (the only time I've ever done that, I dropped it in a metal elevator). I replaced the screen but it was never the same.

So I didn't go 11 years on two models, more like 7 years or so. But I'm definitely not on the two-years-and-upgrade plan.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by bschwindHN »

harshalizee wrote: post #61
verelo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forget, the camera gets better every year! I've had an iphone for 15 years. I mean, it's fine...i just wish there was incentive for durability and sustainability v's replace it every 12-24 months. I guess sustainability concerns at Apple ends at ensuring their stock price is sustainable.

What do you do with your phones that it doesn't last more than 24 months? I've had only two iPhones for almost 11 years. An iphone 6s and currently an iPhone 13 mini there entire time. They're solidly reliable

My only two iPhones have been the iPhone SE 2016, and the 13 mini.

I miss the SE but the 13 mini is really nice too. It's a shame because the SE is still perfectly capable of running most software I use on a phone, but that software has just gotten more inefficient over time.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by ww520 »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #139
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Cook's Apple got you: - Apple Watch - Airpods (& Pro) & Beats - Apple Silicon - Vision Pro

Apple also invested heavily into EV. Though not succeeded, they at least put money into new areas.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by stinkbeetle »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #139
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Cook's Apple got you: - Apple Watch - Airpods (& Pro) & Beats - Apple Silicon - Vision Pro

No, Apple had been doing their own silicon (presumably you mean for their phones) while Jobs was still CEO, and he bought PA Semi in 2008 which put them on the path to do their own CPU cores (iPhone 5 with Swift CPU was released the year after he died so he'd obviously seen the core design process through from the beginning to likely initial tape-out or very close to).

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by bitpush »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #146
bitpush wrote: post #134

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Tesla's news is interesting. A good question to ask in this who's in control in Tesla x CarPlay relationship. The answer is obviously former (Apple can't dictate anything and Tesla gets to boss around). That's very different from a Toyota x Apple partnership. So no, those are two different scenarios. The era of Apple controlling the platform is gone. (Except for legacy ones)

How is the Tesla relationship with CarPlay different than the Toyota one? You didn’t make that clear at all.

People buy Tesla for Tesla and not because CarPlay. But CarPlay is a purchasing decision factor for other brands, which means a power imbalance exists.

So this is a classic game theory situation. You want all participants (Toyota, Honda, Ford) to cooperate (not have CarPlay) and not defect. So participants watch each others move.

If they stick together, all of them stand to win.

If one defect, in the short term they might win but in the long-term Apple will seek to commoditize the car maker.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by makeitdouble »

knollimar wrote: post #158
epolanski wrote: post #111

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As a customer and tech enthusiasts I couldn't care less about the stock performance of Apple, truly. It's a tech company, I'm interested in the tech they produce. On that front, the company hasn't been innovative for ages.

in house chips are pretty cool. Shared memory is a really nice architectural advancement.

What is your specific definition of "in house" chips ?

Usually we'd apply that to Samsung's exynos or Sony's image sensors for their DSLRs. Would Google's Tensor for instance fit in that definition ?

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by ok123456 »

amelius wrote: post #95
usui wrote: post #10

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How serious is this comment? As a thought experiment, this intrigues me. Imagine Steve Wozniak suddenly pops in as CEO. What might happen to the company in the following years?

With Woz: - Apple M-series CPUs become fully documented - iOS is ditched. iPhones and MacBooks now run the same OS - no developer fees - fixed price to have an app in the App store - App store and content filters become orthogonal. Anyone can start an app store. Anyone can make content filters. - Apple starts releasing stuff for the maker-community such as Apple 3D printers

I'm looking forward to the 64-bit Apple IIgs.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by xeonmc »

tastyface wrote: post #75

Tim Cook will be remembered as much for competently maintaining Apple’s course after Jobs’ passing as for flagrantly dismissing democratic regulation while cozying up to (and dining with; and giving golden statues to) authoritarian regimes. Thanks and good riddance.

Symbolized by his flaccid flag-waving at the Miami F1 race.
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