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Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

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Certainly, but don't get confused: You are not doing the thing, until you do the thing. There are many ways to do the thing. There are many more ways to not do the thing.

That's right, you're not producing paperclips unless one minute you have metal wire and the next minute you have a paperclip.

The ways in which you can do things around, but never actually producing a single paperclip are infinite.

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

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post #146

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It does add up though. 1. Ticket 2. Feature branch 3. Write unit test 4. Periodically merge from main. 5. Implement to get tests to pass 6. Push changes 7. Create PR 8. Wait for PR feedback 9. Address feedback and repeat 10. Close and merge PR 11. Automated CI deploy 12. Integration testing as needed 13. Close ticket 14. Include in next prod release All of these are good things. But the overhead is significant. And t…

That is all part of doing the thing called quality software develeopment. Quick and dirty does not work in all environments.

> That is all part of doing the thing called quality software develeopment

It's all part of doing software development on a team that has embraced the trappings of agile, at any rate. Less clear that any of these steps are actually essential to quality.

There are teams who use a workflow that looks more like push-to-merge-queue -> if-tests-pass -> deploy-to-prod, and in my experience this results in significantly higher velocity (provided your e2e tests are actually sufficient to prevent outages).

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#164

That text is describing my life since 10 years or so. I am in my 30s and lost the capability to do the thing, _any_ thing, with the exception of going out with friends/family/my partner to do social activities. Everything else is literally impossible for me to do. I’m currently kicking off my second attempt to fix this by talking to a psychologist about it. But I am not very hopeful. Still searching for the root caus…

Are you burned out at your job maybe?

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#165
>Making a to-do list for the thing isn't doing the thing.

To be fair, for me, not making the list is even less like doing the thing, in terms of how frequently it leads to the thing being done!

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

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post #160

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Oh you are absolutely doing the thing in this situation, as in you're in the process of doing it, somewhere between 1% and 99% of the way there depending on the context. You haven't done the thing until you actually fully do the thing, it is true. But most of the work could be in this preparatory meta work, and of course it means nothing without the final all important step of doing the thing, but there you have it,…

Redefining doing the thing into a complex process, where actually doing the thing is only one step of the process, and then other steps, is not doing the thing.

Buying the wire and the pliers is not doing the thing either, but you can't do the thing if you don't have them.

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

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I think the transition between things being done is maybe a bit more interesting.

"Build a house," is a thing, but at which point of the dreaming, designing, planning, permitting, architecting, financing, contracting, acquiring, installing, verifying, reworking, coordinating, inspecting, styling, unpacking, cleaning, landscaping, repairing, upgrading, and waiting, are you doing it?

Perhaps each discrete thing is itself a thing, and when you do a thing, or transition between things, is the matter needing clarifying.

If you are coordinating on how to do a thing, you are doing the thing, as long as the thing is coordinating on how to do the next thing. This "coordinating a thing" is a discrete thing we should not confuse for any other thing.

TFA's examples are unforgiving in that they suppose there is only ever one thing and all else should be nothing.

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

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post #164

That text is describing my life since 10 years or so. I am in my 30s and lost the capability to do the thing, _any_ thing, with the exception of going out with friends/family/my partner to do social activities. Everything else is literally impossible for me to do. I’m currently kicking off my second attempt to fix this by talking to a psychologist about it. But I am not very hopeful. Still searching for the root caus…

Are you burned out at your job maybe?

I definitely lack motivation to do anything at my job, but it’s the same will all private/hobby stuff. IT is probably not it for me anymore, however I have that job situation under control. I wish I could do something else though (not IT at all), but that also requires me to start that thing (and take some risk).

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

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post #133

That text is describing my life since 10 years or so. I am in my 30s and lost the capability to do the thing, _any_ thing, with the exception of going out with friends/family/my partner to do social activities. Everything else is literally impossible for me to do. I’m currently kicking off my second attempt to fix this by talking to a psychologist about it. But I am not very hopeful. Still searching for the root caus…

At the risk of making unqualified self-diagnoses, the phrase that always comes to my mind is "anticipatory anhedonia": On some level I do not expect the thing will actually be that fun, and I'm not filled with bubbly joy now about how awesome it'll be when it happens tomorrow. I may have fun during the thing, but beforehand it's mostly trying to plan for what might go wrong, and afterwards it fades to the satisfactio…

Thanks, will read about this!
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