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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by Jtsummers »

SoftTalker wrote: post #144
Jtsummers wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Three years, unless something happens to Trump or he resigns or is impeached and removed. This is still the first of his four years in office, though it feels like longer.

Ha you're right but anyway... two or three years isn't "never"

Fair point, I'd say probably not until early next decade unless something substantial changes politically in the US. By that point, the EV demand in the US will probably be high enough to force allowing imports unless domestic manufacturers have finally figured out how to make affordable EVs.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by behringer »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #128
WanderPanda wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mechanically sure, but I still feel way safer when a Tesla (of any kind) is approaching me as a pedestrian or bicyclist than any other vehicle (except maybe Waymo) because I know they will alert the driver and brake if necessary. Any other car, especially older trucks, I'm quite afraid of, based on experience.

> because I know they will alert the driver and brake if necessary. This is not necessarily accurate. https://x.com/TaylorOgan/status/1681240264554209281 ("Warning: Graphic; Last month, a 76-year-old pedestrian was tragically mowed down by a Tesla Model S in Brooklyn, NY. Both of his legs were torn off, according to witnesses. New data from the NHTSA says the Tesla was engaged on Autopilot/Full Self-Driving mode.") h…

You would need to compare the data against the data of non-smart trucks. I'm guessing it's an order of magnitude more dangerous to be a pedestrian around a normal truck.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by specialist »

torginus wrote: post #65
timenotwasted wrote: post #12

I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.

They literally went from an exoskeleton based truck bent into shape to an aluminium truck whose interior frame shatters on impact instead of the panels absorbing the hit - so instead of having to replace cheap plastic trim and collision absorbing metal bars, the energy gets dissipated inside the (almost unrepairable) aluminium frame. Additionally, they didn't manage to find a satisfactory solution to attach the steel…

A monocoque design could be really cool. Like the original Mini. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini

Were I in charge, I'd've started with a kei car or city car. Or something (size wise) like Telo. https://www.telotrucks.com/

Definitely would not have started with an off-road vehicle.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by rishabhaiover »

dymk wrote: post #80
vardump wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only Cybertruck. Also other trucks like Ford F150 etc.

Trucks in general are awful for pedestrians and other motorists, but the Cybertruck is made specifically of sharp angles that will rip and tear more than a big flat vertical wall running into you.

clear case of bias infecting judgment.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by hnburnsy »

chazzalpha wrote: post #90

I don't know how any Tesla investor can justify paying anyone $1 trillion when the products he makes keep falling apart.

Making cars is hard, just ask Ford...

>As of this story's publication, Thursday, September 4, 2025, Ford has issued 109 recalls that have covered 7,871,344 vehicles. Of course, quite a few of those cars are repeat offenders, but you get the point. It's staggering.

>Of those 109 recalls, 26 of them are re-recalls. That means they're recalls on recalls Ford has already carried out,

>Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/1958179/all-ford-vehicle-recalls-20...

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

WanderPanda wrote: post #104
gbhdrew wrote: post #68

The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

Mechanically sure, but I still feel way safer when a Tesla (of any kind) is approaching me as a pedestrian or bicyclist than any other vehicle (except maybe Waymo) because I know they will alert the driver and brake if necessary. Any other car, especially older trucks, I'm quite afraid of, based on experience.

My Honda has a break alert system.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by rishabhaiover »

mingus88 wrote: post #75
gbhdrew wrote: post #68

The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

Good luck with that. This is the CEOs pet project, who spent 3mo openly and directly dismantling regulatory groups in the U.S. while at the same time threatening to pull out of key defense and aerospace initiatives if the poor guy didn’t get his way

I wish we had more respect for innovation.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by romaaeterna »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #148
romaaeterna wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That first crash sure doesn't sound like Autopilot/FSD, given that the car kept going after the crash.

Tesla is currently renting vehicles for $60/day due to diminished demand; if one would like to test this personally, the cost is minimal. Avoid bodily injury whenever possible during testing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coeaqdexknE https://electrek.co/2025/11/10/tesla-cant-sell-cars-so-renti... Edit: @romaaeterna Are you willing to stand in front of it while it is at speed without a safety driver? I am trying to…

I have a Tesla and a drive FSD back and forth to work every day. It's great

Edit in response to your edit:

Would I risk myself standing in front of a FSD Tesla versus in front of an Uber or an average human-controlled car with the standard percentage chance of the human texting or being otherwise distracted or drunk or tired? I would take FSD. And I think that a mathematical rather than emotional evaluation of the odds would make risk-minded people do the same.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by toomuchtodo »

behringer wrote: post #162
toomuchtodo wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because I know they will alert the driver and brake if necessary. This is not necessarily accurate. https://x.com/TaylorOgan/status/1681240264554209281 ("Warning: Graphic; Last month, a 76-year-old pedestrian was tragically mowed down by a Tesla Model S in Brooklyn, NY. Both of his legs were torn off, according to witnesses. New data from the NHTSA says the Tesla was engaged on Autopilot/Full Self-Driving mode.") h…

You would need to compare the data against the data of non-smart trucks. I'm guessing it's an order of magnitude more dangerous to be a pedestrian around a normal truck.

Automatic emergency braking is a standard feature on many new cars, and will be mandatory for all new passenger cars and light trucks in the U.S. by September 2029. I am open to the assertion that Tesla's AEB, when scoped to pedestrian scenarios, is superior to other AEB systems, but this assertion requires independently verified data and evidence for support.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/automatic-em...

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/aeb-with-ped...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_emergency_braking_sy...

https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2024-04/final-ru... [pdf]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63027394/feds-automated-e...

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by bluGill »

chrisco255 wrote: post #105
danans wrote: post #94

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> Anyone who really goes off road is looking for a lot of features that are hard to find in a production vehicle. (which is why they often modify production vehicles). Perhaps this is something that Slate can solve better than Tesla. https://www.slate.auto

Besides being all hype and no production at this particular juncture, the design of the Slate is not geared towards offroading at all.

The customizations available/planned are cosmetic things not of interest to off road. You can put in a different sound system or change the color - but off road wants things like a skid plate that can handle boulders.
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