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Carice TC2 – A non-digital electric car
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#162No CCS, only Type 2? That's odd.
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#163Too cute for the price tag. But seriously bad design choice of having a plug port in the trunk. Looks like you could close it and lock it, but still.
I also got a bad impression from that, but upon further reflection, it's a more interesting choice. Keeping the plug port in the trunk means that the charging cable (kept in the trunk) can stay semi-permanently plugged into the car, which is perhaps nice when you're charging away from home. The question I have is, because the cable goes through a cut-out in the trunk to reach the charger, how well that holds up to rain, attempts to break into the trunk, etc.
Re: Carice TC2 – A non-digital electric car
#164No CCS, only Type 2? That's odd.
Must be quite low power engine + small battery system for that to work and translate to the promised charging time
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#1651) Cool, i hope they get lots of orders. 2) We're not past the 'zero emissions' rhetoric? I get evals 'at the tailpipe,' yet i think we've come past that line of thinking (e.g. Fairphone's Cameroon country outline inside the phone, behind the battery cover) 3) Will be interesting to compare results to other cars, e.g. Slate, which approach a similar need/desire from a remarkably different angle.
What's the issue with the zero emissions rhetoric?
There are still emissions during production and decommissioning. And cars are sources of noise and light, and emissions due to component wear (tires and brakes, probably others as well). A specific car may be not as bad as others for the environment, but there is always some impact.
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#166No CCS, only Type 2? That's odd.
200km and 300km (I guess) WLTP mean a very small battery pack, so AC only charging seems pretty normal. It's probably some ~8-10 years old technology put in a small chassis.
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you had a company whose core business proposition was Quite Obviously Shady, would you expect them to be scrupulously legit in other areas? Quick question for you - rhino poaching is a huge problem in Africa, with poachers getting a surprisingly small amount of money per rhino they shoot, because the buyers only want the horns. Do you think paying the poachers more to not shoot the rhinos would solve that problem?
Suspicions, inferences and reasonable concerns are perfectly fine. Answering questions with questions is less fine. Statements of categorical fact about a whole class of things (in this case VPNs) demand more than that.
Well, it's not my bank account and it's not my IP address.
You do you.
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#168Some choice quotes: > Prices for a TC2 start at €44.500 excluding taxes (€53.854 including 21% btw/Dutch tax). > The Carice TC2 complies with the European regulations and can therefore be driven in all EU countries and countries that adopt those regulations, like Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Monaco and Norway.
I thought the whole point of not going digital is to save on all this screens and software crap.
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#169I like the idea, and we need variety in the market to keep things evolving, but I like the bells and whistles. I just don't want it to phone home. Honestly, I want the title to be 'we don't have a network connection and we can still be a car'. Privacy is my #1 feature.
Speaking of variety in the market: does anyone know how the capital barrier for developing an EV compares to a combustion drivetrain?
I wonder if, now that China has a developed supply ecosystem, it's becoming possible to build a car with lots of commodity/white-label parts. And I wonder if, as the quality of this supply chain improves, that means we'll start to see more small players emerge?
(Pure speculation)
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#170I don't see anything on the web site about the car not being digital. It's just an advertisement. The title is misleading and should be changed to the target page's title.
I also don't see mention of the battery technology, though maybe I didn't look hard enough. I'd want it to be LFP.