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State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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Work had me using the Windows Terminal for the first time ever after a life of developing on Linux. I got immediately hooked on the smart Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (without needing to use Shift like on Linux!) For those not knowing, Windows Terminal uses Ctrl+C to abort the current process (as we'd expect) when nothing is selected , but copies when there is a selection. Similarly, Ctrl+V just pastes. So convenient!

windows terminal is awesome and i wish it shipped with windows by default instead of having to go to the store and install it. everyone who uses it has only good things to say, and it is updated regularly by Microsoft.

It is default in w11 25h2

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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> I got immediately hooked on the smart Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (without needing to use Shift like on Linux!) You, uh, never tried middle clicking?

So now we are moving away from Keyboard only Vim/Terminal thing to mouse for pasting?

You can cut/paste within your editor just fine. The subject at hand is window-system level clipboard/selection interaction, and in particular the presence of standard key bindings for them in various environments. While some terminal and editor apps do have keyboard bindings that interact with the OS clipboard, none are standard.

Basically, yeah: you had to use the mouse to select it in the first place. Using the mouse to paste it is easier, not harder.

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Pretty nice to see KDE's Konsole rank really high, especially if you take performance/test elapsed time into account. Considering it's a decades-older workhorse compared to the new star ghostty, not too shabby that it's kept up.

Konsole Just Works

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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Work had me using the Windows Terminal for the first time ever after a life of developing on Linux. I got immediately hooked on the smart Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (without needing to use Shift like on Linux!) For those not knowing, Windows Terminal uses Ctrl+C to abort the current process (as we'd expect) when nothing is selected , but copies when there is a selection. Similarly, Ctrl+V just pastes. So convenient!

FWIW, in zsh, and probably other terminals, you can bind ctrl+v to be paste. Many terminal emulators also allow you to bind ctrl+v to paste, although that may interfere with applications that use ctrl-v for something else.

Kitty has a copy_or_interrupt action that behaves like you describe. Although, I think it would interfere with apps where ctrl-c is handled specially.

Edit: kitty also has a copy_or_noop action that passes through the ctrl+c if there is no selection.

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People still use WezTerm when we have Kitty and Ghostty? Can you explain why? I'm actually interested to know what would make someone make that choice.

Wezterm is actually programmable. I am looking to drop Kitty as it intentionally offers minimal tmux support and the text rendering options that made it superior for me are being deprecated. Until Ghostty offers the scriptability found in wezterm and kitty (e.g., hit a keybind, spawn a new terminal and execute a font picker script), I am trying out wezterm, which is pretty great, but renders fonts too thin by default…

I had some issues with Wezterm fonts - I was able to configure it away: https://github.com/bbkane/dotfiles/tree/master/wezterm#fixed...

Re: State of Terminal Emulators in 2025: The Errant Champions

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Nothing even mentioned on WezTerm really?

People still use WezTerm when we have Kitty and Ghostty? Can you explain why? I'm actually interested to know what would make someone make that choice.

Folks have responded about WezTerm's programmability being the reason they like it, but if you don't mind I'd like to flip the question around: why do you prefer Kitty or Ghostty to WezTerm?

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Apple Terminal is a lot like Internet Explorer in the 00s: for power users it’s only purpose is an interface to install something else which doesn’t suck.

As a decrepit old {COMMO} power user, anything that doesn’t give me fully integrated scripting with expect/switch/dialog and a popup script editor, honestly hasn’t been worth investing in further. So I’ve been on Linux console, Putty, and macOS Terminal ever since. My terminal.app color scheme uses P3 colors on 7% gray rather than the usual sRGB colors so that I can use an OKLCH equidistant palette, and I make extens…

Oh wow, I haven't thought of COMMO in decades.

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I appreciate this analysis is on the state of terminal emulators , but I'm curious how well the integrated terminals that come bundled in code editors/IDEs also perform. For example, where does Zed's integrated terminal fit in the rankings? VS Code (and its derivatives)? JetBrains, Sublime Text?

vscode terminal came in at number 32.

https://ucs-detect.readthedocs.io/sw_results/vscodeterminal....

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Work had me using the Windows Terminal for the first time ever after a life of developing on Linux. I got immediately hooked on the smart Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (without needing to use Shift like on Linux!) For those not knowing, Windows Terminal uses Ctrl+C to abort the current process (as we'd expect) when nothing is selected , but copies when there is a selection. Similarly, Ctrl+V just pastes. So convenient!

windows terminal is awesome and i wish it shipped with windows by default instead of having to go to the store and install it. everyone who uses it has only good things to say, and it is updated regularly by Microsoft.

It comes with Windows, and has since 2022! Alas, if you mean Windows 10 then you can use some DISM magic to add it to an install image.
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