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Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)

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Re: Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)

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People were spending much more time outside and the roads were much more dusty. You need a hat to keep yourself from the sun and the dust. Cars made them obsolete.

They also make it way easier to great people even over some distance, without awkwardly moving your hand in the air or shouting and annoying all the others.

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Re: Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People were spending much more time outside and the roads were much more dusty. You need a hat to keep yourself from the sun and the dust. Cars made them obsolete.

They also make it way easier to great people even over some distance, without awkwardly moving your hand in the air or shouting and annoying all the others.

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Re: Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People were spending much more time outside and the roads were much more dusty. You need a hat to keep yourself from the sun and the dust. Cars made them obsolete.

They also make it way easier to great people even over some distance, without awkwardly moving your hand in the air or shouting and annoying all the others.

What do people downvote opinions over clothing for?

Re: Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)

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It was a recurring theme throughout most of Golden Age fiction. E.g. Clifford D. Simak mentions them as a mode of transportation in The Goblin Reservation , Asimov has them in Robots of Dawn , and I'm sure I'm forgetting plenty more. It could be that it was Heinlein who kicked of the trend.

People have tried faster moving walkways many times. The problem is getting humans on and off such a system safely in a way that is easy to maintain. In practice, everyday transportation systems need to accommodate a wide variety of users safely, like a toddler, or a commuter holding a cup of coffee, or a grandmother with a walker.

One of the Canadian airports has a moving walkway that has slow on/off sections and a faster (5mph?) middle. It works a bit like a Ski lift where the chairs (walkway sections) basically bunch up at the start/end to slow down.

Here at 4:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMlLPgAL2h0

Re: Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)

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Anyone have info on how energy-efficient moving walkways are on a person-mile basis? I'm guessing not very, but I'd love to be wrong. Taking a moving walkway instead of a subway would be awesome (assuming you could figure out the speed aspect, obviously).

Re: Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)

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Asimov describes networks of moving walkways on Earth. There are several adjacent ones with different speeds, and the central one is the fastest. People optimize their journeys by entering the network from the outside and gradually moving to the faster inner beltway. And vice versa when they approach their destination. It's very detailed, quite realistic… and inspiring.

Re: Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)

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I'd guess that Heinlein was aware of it and scaled it up in his imagination. The Roads must roll — they are the arteries of the nation. When they stop, everything stops. Factories idle, food rots, men starve. The nation cannot live without its Roads. A thousand feet wide, level as a floor, strip after strip moving past in ordered procession. The slow strips on the outside moved at five miles an hour; the inner ones f…

This somehow feels like the horizontal equivalent of a Pater Noster elevator. But probably with even worse error modes if it stops working at 100mph.

There's one of those still in operation at the University of Sheffield! Pretty stressful. https://sheffield.ac.uk/efm/paternoster

Re: Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)

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Does anyone know why we don't have these anymore, except in buildings like airports and shopping malls?

Maybe because in airports people are sometimes required to walk long distances to go from one point to another, while in a city there are public transport, bicycles, taxis, etc. plenty of other options so walking long distances is usually not required.

I think moving sidewalks could be more suitable for shorter distances than public transport or taxis. In many situations, it doesn’t make sense to order a taxi for a trip of less than 1,000 meters, or to walk to the nearest bus stop, then wait for the bus, just to travel a single stop. There are many people with disabilities who may struggle to walk these distances and would benefit from such an option. Additionally, moving sidewalks could reduce the time it takes to travel short distances within cities.
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