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Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

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Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

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So you make the business decision to stop supporting weird devices that can't do the job right? Why on earth does a cartoon streaming site need provably-correct subtitle support for devices that clearly suck?

Because the owners of those devices are paying them.

I’ve mentioned it elsewhere, but... why not keep proper ASS subs and fallback subs for those devices?

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

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post #119

There is a solution: learn Japanese!

I guess it's easy to type it out on the keyboard. How long did it take you to learn a language to arrive at a level where you can watch a movie/TV program with tons of idioms and cultural references and easily understand > 95% of it?

A few years (I'm a slow learner), but it was worth it because of the sheer amount of Japanese content that I consume.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

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> I find it beyond lazy and insulting I cannot imagine how much more difficult of life you make yourself with this kind of reaction to someone writing extensively on an article nobody forced - much less even asked - you to read.

Did you mean to imply autistism-driven sensory overload is something I'm choosing in interpersonal communication? I did not mean the article was lazy, I meant that specifically about hypothetical co workers. The article was at the time reminiscent of said hypothetical co workers, but not at all the same thing. My wording was charged, but not really unclear. The first paragraph is about one subject and the second para…

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Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

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> I find it beyond lazy and insulting I cannot imagine how much more difficult of life you make yourself with this kind of reaction to someone writing extensively on an article nobody forced - much less even asked - you to read.

Did you mean to imply autistism-driven sensory overload is something I'm choosing in interpersonal communication? I did not mean the article was lazy, I meant that specifically about hypothetical co workers. The article was at the time reminiscent of said hypothetical co workers, but not at all the same thing. My wording was charged, but not really unclear. The first paragraph is about one subject and the second para…

I will take my badge of Reading Comprehension Failure for the day, thank you. I hope you will accept my apologies.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#166

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If you hardsub the video, then you need to have a full copy of the video for every language. That's the opposite of what people want. They want a single textless video source that can then accommodate any internationalization.

This is just an excuse. There needs to be a hard english sub and then keep other languages can be single video with different text file. Deleting 80% good things only to keep other 20% happy should not be an excuse. Only english is the most popular and just keep it. Most of the good hard subs are made for english and that is what people want.

That is exactly what I thought and I am not even a native English speaker. My English is infinitely better than my Japanese though, so if I cared about anime I’d much rather watch a good English version rather than a bad German one

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you mean to imply autistism-driven sensory overload is something I'm choosing in interpersonal communication? I did not mean the article was lazy, I meant that specifically about hypothetical co workers. The article was at the time reminiscent of said hypothetical co workers, but not at all the same thing. My wording was charged, but not really unclear. The first paragraph is about one subject and the second para…

I will take my badge of Reading Comprehension Failure for the day, thank you. I hope you will accept my apologies.

No need for an apology. I certainly could have been clearer. In any case I could use more empathy for my fellow humans who lack communication skills, so your point is still valid.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

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My Spanish friend was explaining how some dubs can be better than the original - because the voice actors are good. I think anything with Jeff Goldblum could be easily improved. The voice actors become well known and some were popular . . . although they can really change the tone of a movie (for good or bad) which they said was sometimes jarring when watching the movie in the original language. I remember them sayin…

I suppose I can't say it's impossible. It just seems very very uncommon, and it has to be a case where the original has unusually bad voice actors and the dub has unusually good voice actors. Most of the things I would want to watch will have good acting/voice acting in the original; that will tend to correlate with the overall thing being good, and I try to only watch things I find good.

If you're a native English speaker, then you would lack the cultural context.

Most everything in Spain was dubbed, which lead to common cultural outcomes that are very different from English dubbing.

I'm sure they had a lot of awful dubbing, but apparently the results were regularly an improvement (voice actors changing the outcome to be more Spanish in a way that worked well).

My second hand opinion, based on a conversation from years ago, so I can't be that clear about it.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#169

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I suppose I can't say it's impossible. It just seems very very uncommon, and it has to be a case where the original has unusually bad voice actors and the dub has unusually good voice actors. Most of the things I would want to watch will have good acting/voice acting in the original; that will tend to correlate with the overall thing being good, and I try to only watch things I find good.

If you're a native English speaker, then you would lack the cultural context. Most everything in Spain was dubbed, which lead to common cultural outcomes that are very different from English dubbing. I'm sure they had a lot of awful dubbing, but apparently the results were regularly an improvement (voice actors changing the outcome to be more Spanish in a way that worked well). My second hand opinion, based on a conv…

I am willing to believe it. Just in my own experience as a native English speaker, English dubs of non-English anime, shows, and movies are generally awful, and the non-awful ones are still significantly worse than the original. It's possible non-English dubs of English things tend to be good, for some reason.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#170
post #48

Netflix implements "imgsub"[1] - it actually delivers a zipped archive of transparent images to the player. So technically they can pre-render positioned typesetted subtitles on server and render them as images overlay, as long as there's no animated text effects. In general, streaming services have to ensure maximum compatibility when playing their contents on all kinds of devices - high end and low end. For which o…

In 2008 I was watching fansubbed anime with decent typesetting on a netbook with a shitass-even-for-the-time Atom processor, so I don't buy for one second that this is a device capabilities issue.

Your player likely wasn't written in Javascript back then.

Playing video on Youtube causes much more cpu load than playing the video with the same av1 (or even more computationally intensive vp9) codec in VLC.

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