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Re: Roc Camera

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Post by anonymous908213 »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #71
seg_lol wrote: post #61

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With the tariffs this is no longer possible for US persons.

Huh? Tariffs shouldn’t prevent buying stuff, you just have to, y’know, pay a tariff on import. In this case, a Japanese made camera will incur a 15% tariff.

Most countries, including Japan, India, Canada, and nearly the entire EU, have completely stopped shipping packages to US consumers. This is not because of the tariffs themselves, but because the US apparently has no system in place for actually handling the tariffs on goods that previously qualified for the de minimis exemption. Two months and counting with no information on when shipping might resume.

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by fsloth »

grumpy-de-sre wrote: post #77
october8140 wrote: post #67

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The biggest lie capitalism tells us is that something only has value if it can be sold.

Or just maybe free markets expose the bitter truth. That can take a lot of self reflection to come to terms with. Applies to a lot of aspects to life, eg. career planning, creative endeavors etc. But at the same time it's true that some vital public activities aren't rewarded by the system atm. Eg. quality journalism, family rearing, open source, etc. Often that's an issue of privatized costs and socialized rewards.…

"Finding a way to correct for this is a really big deal."

But aren't you now feeding back to the system? Why would there need to be a financial reward and incentive for everything?

I do realize "contributing free value" is perceived by some as free value a third party can capture and financially profit from" which might the reason for thinking of how to then cycle some of that value back?

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by anigbrowl »

grumpy-de-sre wrote: post #77
october8140 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest lie capitalism tells us is that something only has value if it can be sold.

Or just maybe free markets expose the bitter truth. That can take a lot of self reflection to come to terms with. Applies to a lot of aspects to life, eg. career planning, creative endeavors etc. But at the same time it's true that some vital public activities aren't rewarded by the system atm. Eg. quality journalism, family rearing, open source, etc. Often that's an issue of privatized costs and socialized rewards.…

I think this is only true when you abstract things away from their spatiotemporal context and treat market information as a snapshot. The art market thought Van Gogh was a weirdo with bad brush technique until after he died and people began to recognize how innovative his work was.

Re: Roc Camera

#165

Post by Tepix »

Remember, Nikon's image authentication was hacked back in 2011 https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2011/04/nikon-image-authenticatio...

The ACLU is sceptical regarding the whole concept: https://www.aclu-or.org/en/news/attempts-technological-solut...

The root causes podcast discusses this topic in its episode 336: https://www.sectigo.com/resource-library/root-causes-336-dig...

I strongly believe this should be an open source project.

Re: Roc Camera

#166

Post by RockRobotRock »

vlmutolo wrote: post #8

I wonder how this compares to similar initiatives by e.g. Sony [0] and Leica [1]. [0]: https://authenticity.sony.net/camera/en-us/ [1]: https://petapixel.com/2023/10/26/leica-m11-p-review-as-authe...

Compared to those, this is like a weekend project that a high school student could accomplish.

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by vlan121 »

Tepix wrote: post #165

Remember, Nikon's image authentication was hacked back in 2011 https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2011/04/nikon-image-authenticatio... The ACLU is sceptical regarding the whole concept: https://www.aclu-or.org/en/news/attempts-technological-solut... The root causes podcast discusses this topic in its episode 336: https://www.sectigo.com/resource-library/root-causes-336-dig... I strongly believe this should be an open source…

Security 101: * Kerckhoff Principle of Open Design Security of a mechanism should not depend on the secrecy of its design or implementation.
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