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So you just live a reactionary life? Nothing matters until it affects you personally? Should we get rid of free speech if jason-phillips doesn't have anything to say?
You get the society/government/neighbors that you deserve.
> Omnilert later admitted the incident was a “false positive” but claimed the system “functioned as intended,” saying its purpose is to “prioritize safety and awareness through rapid human verification.” It just created a situation in which a bunch of people with guns were told that some teen had a gun. That's a very unsafe situation that the system created, out of nothing. And some teen may be traumatized. Again, un…
>And some teen may be traumatized. Um. That's not really the danger here. The danger is that it's as clear as day that in the future someone is gonna be killed. That's not just a possibility. It's a certainty given the way the system is set up. This tech is not supposed to be used in this fashion. It's not ready.
My read of the "Um" and the quoting, was that you thought I missed that first danger, and so were disagreeing in a dismissive way.
When actually we're largely in agreement about the first danger. But people trying to follow a flood of online dialogue might miss that.
I mentioned the second danger because it's also significant. Many people don't understand how safety works, and will think "nobody got shot, so the system must have worked, nothing to be concerned about". But it's harder for even those people to dismiss the situation entirely, when the second danger is pointed out.
I expect that John Bryan -- who produces content as The Civil Rights Lawyer https://thecivilrightslawyer.com -- will have something to say about it. He frequently criticizes the legality of police holding people at gunpoint based on flimsy information, because the law considers it a use of force, which needs to be justified. For instance, he's done several videos about "high risk" vehicle stops, where a car is mistak…
Is use of force without justification automatically excessive force or is there a gray area?
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We got our cyberpunk future, except none of it's cool and everything's extremely stupid.
If any of you had actually paid attention to the source media, you would have noticed that they were explicitly dystopias . They were always clearly and explicitly hell for normal people trying to live life. Meanwhile, tons of you watched star trek and apparently learned(?) that the "bright future" it promised us was.... talking computers? And not, you know, post scarcity and enlightenment that allowed people to focu…
My point is exactly that we got the dystopia but also it's not even a little cool, and it's very stupid. We could have at least gotten the cool dystopia where bad things happen but at least they're part of some kind of sensible longer-term plan. What we got practically breaks suspension of disbelief, it's so damn goofy.
> The primary "technology" of star trek was socialism lol.
Yep. Socialism, and automatic brainwashing chairs. And sending all the oddball non-conformists off to probably die on alien planets, I guess. (The "Original Series" is pretty weird)
What is happening in the world. There should be some liability for this but nothing will happen.
The world is doing fairly ok, thank you. The US however I’m not so sure as people here are apparently more concerned by the AI malfunction than with the idea it’s somehow sensible to live monitor high schools for gun threat.
"“We understand how upsetting this was for the individual that was searched as well as the other students who witnessed the incident,” the principal wrote. “Our counselors will provide direct support to the students who were involved.”" Make them pay money for false positives instead of direct support and counselling. This technology is not ready for production, it should be in a lab not in public buildings such as s…
> Make them pay money for false positives instead of direct support and counselling. Agreed. > This technology is not ready for production No one wants stuff like this to happen, but nearly all technologies have risks. I don't consider that a single false positive outweighs all of its benefits; it would depend on the rates of false and true positives, and the (subjective) value of each (both high in this case, though…
"“We understand how upsetting this was for the individual that was searched as well as the other students who witnessed the incident,” the principal wrote. “Our counselors will provide direct support to the students who were involved.”" Make them pay money for false positives instead of direct support and counselling. This technology is not ready for production, it should be in a lab not in public buildings such as s…
> Make them pay money It already cost money paying for the time and resources to be misappropriated. There needs to be resignations, or jail time.
"“We understand how upsetting this was for the individual that was searched as well as the other students who witnessed the incident,” the principal wrote. “Our counselors will provide direct support to the students who were involved.”" Make them pay money for false positives instead of direct support and counselling. This technology is not ready for production, it should be in a lab not in public buildings such as s…
> “They didn’t apologize. They just told me it was protocol. I was expecting at least somebody to talk to me about it.” I wonder how effective an apology and explanation would have been? Just some respect.