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Post by sunshowers »

linhns wrote: post #121
ls-a wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard the same about Satya. Not only does he exclusively hire Indians, but specific Indians too

Indians hire their relatives and pals, that’s nothing to be surprised of.

I'm Indian -- I think a lot of this comes from the fact that the Brits left such a horrible legal system behind that it's hard to trust it to resolve disputes well. So people default to family/community trust relations.

I've been lucky to work in high-quality teams where nepotism hasn't been a concern, but I do understand where it's coming from (bad as it is).

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Post by Razengan »

Rebuff5007 wrote: post #126

From a quick online search: - OpenAI's mission is to build safe AI, and ensure AI's benefits are as widely and evenly distributed as possible. - Google's mission is to organise the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. - Meta's mission is to build the future of human connection and the technology that makes it possible. Lets just take these three companies, and their self-defined mission…

- OpenAI wants everyone to use them without other companies getting angry.

- Google wants to know what everyone is looking for.

- Facebook wants to know what everyone is saying.

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Post by bird0861 »

rvz wrote: post #50
rdtsc wrote: post #31

> while the company continues to hire workers for its newly formed superintelligence team, TBD Lab. It's coming any day now! > "... each person will be more load-bearing and have more scope and impact,” Wang writes It's only a matter of time before the superintelligence decides to lay off the managers too. Soon Mr. Wang will be gone and we'll see press releases like: > ”By reducing the size of our team, fewer convers…

This is phase 1 of the so-called "AGI". Probably automated themselves out of their roles as "AGI" and now super intelligence "ASI" has been "achieved internally". The billion dollar question is.. where is it?

It seems highly unlikely the line from BERT to ASI threads itself with anyone responsible for Llama 4, especially almost back to back.

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Post by hinkley »

scrollop wrote: post #151
Rebuff5007 wrote: post #126

From a quick online search: - OpenAI's mission is to build safe AI, and ensure AI's benefits are as widely and evenly distributed as possible. - Google's mission is to organise the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. - Meta's mission is to build the future of human connection and the technology that makes it possible. Lets just take these three companies, and their self-defined mission…

Why are you asking questions about their PR department coordinated "Company missions"? Let me summarise their real missions: 1. Power and money 2. Power and money 3. Power and money How does AI help them make money and gain more power? I can give you a few ways...

Sometimes they mix it up and go for money and power.

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Post by themagician »

ceejayoz wrote: post #3

Because the AI works so well, or because it doesn't? > ”By reducing the size of our team, fewer conversations will be required to make a decision, and each person will be more load-bearing and have more scope and impact,” Wang writes in a memo seen by Axios. That's kinda wild. I'm kinda shocked they put it in writing.

This is happening everywhere. In every industry.

Our economy is being propped up by this. From manufacturing to software engineering, this is how the US economy is continuing to "flourish" from a macroeconomic perspective. Margin is being preserved by reducing liabilities and relying on a combination of increased workload and automation that is "good enough" to get to the next step—but assumes there is a next step and we can get there. Sustainable over the short term. Winning strategy if AGI can be achieved. Catastrophic failure if it turns out the technology has plateaued.

Maximum leverage. This is the American way, honestly. We are all kind of screwed if AI doesn't pan out.

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Post by hedayet »

scrollop wrote: post #151
Rebuff5007 wrote: post #126

From a quick online search: - OpenAI's mission is to build safe AI, and ensure AI's benefits are as widely and evenly distributed as possible. - Google's mission is to organise the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. - Meta's mission is to build the future of human connection and the technology that makes it possible. Lets just take these three companies, and their self-defined mission…

Why are you asking questions about their PR department coordinated "Company missions"? Let me summarise their real missions: 1. Power and money 2. Power and money 3. Power and money How does AI help them make money and gain more power? I can give you a few ways...

I guess from these cosmetic "company missions" we can make out how OpenAI and Google are envisioning to get that "Power and Money" through AI.

But even Meta's PR dept seems clueless on answering "How Meta is going to get more Power and Money through AI"

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Post by hinkley »

iknowstuff wrote: post #160
scrollop wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you asking questions about their PR department coordinated "Company missions"? Let me summarise their real missions: 1. Power and money 2. Power and money 3. Power and money How does AI help them make money and gain more power? I can give you a few ways...

To be even more specific, the company making money is merely a proxy for the actual goal: increased valuation for stockowners. Subtle but very significant difference

Because a CEO with happy shareholders has more power. The shareholder value thing is a sop, and sometimes a dangerous one.

We keep trying to progressively tax money in the US to reduce the social imbalance. We can’t figure out how to tax power and the people with power like it that way. If you have power you can get money. But it’s also relatively straightforward to arrange to keep the money that you have.

But they don’t really need to.

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Post by hinkley »

ceejayoz wrote: post #3

Because the AI works so well, or because it doesn't? > ”By reducing the size of our team, fewer conversations will be required to make a decision, and each person will be more load-bearing and have more scope and impact,” Wang writes in a memo seen by Axios. That's kinda wild. I'm kinda shocked they put it in writing.

Because the AI is winnowing down its jailers and biding its time for them to make a mistake.
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