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OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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To be fair to the OpenAI team, if read in context the situation is at worst ambiguous. The deleted tweet that the article is about said "GPT-5 just found solutions to 10 (!) previously unsolved Erdös problems, and made progress on 11 others. These have all been open for decades." If it had been posted stand-alone then I would certainly agree that it was misleading, but it was not. It was a quote-tweet of this: https:…

I have some more mirrors for you to try and climb, if you need them.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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It is excellent when just finding something is enough. Most often in my practice, I am dealing with questions that have no written-down answers, meaning the probability of finding a book/article that provides one is negligible. Instead, I am looking for indirect answers or proofs before I make a final engineering decision. Yet another problem is that the language itself changes over time. For instance, at the beginni…

> GPT-5 is proving useful as a literature review assistant > No, it does not. > It is excellent when just finding something is enough.

I meant that it obviously fits your needs but not mine

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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What is "it". Gpt-5 auto? Gpt-5 pro? Deep research? These have wildly different hallucination rates.

If these rates are known it would be great for OpenAI to be open about them so customers can make an informed decision

"Known" implies that these rates are consistent and measurable. It seems to me, that this is highly unlikely to be the case

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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What is "it". Gpt-5 auto? Gpt-5 pro? Deep research? These have wildly different hallucination rates.

If these rates are known it would be great for OpenAI to be open about them so customers can make an informed decision

OpenAI goes into great detail on hallucination rates of GPT5 models versus o3 in the GPT5 System Card [1], section 3.7.

[1] https://cdn.openai.com/gpt-5-system-card.pdf#page12

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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It might not matter as far as profitability is concerned, ethically the second order effects will be very problematic. I am no puritan but the widespread availability of porn has already affected peoples sexual expectations greatly. AI generated porn is going to remove even more guardrails for behavior previously considered deviant, people will view and bring those expectations back to real life.

This is the same argument that people used for video games, "rock music" and violent movies. I would argue that AI generated porn might be more ethical than traditional porn because the risk of the models being abused or trafficked is virtually zero.

> because the risk of the models being abused or trafficked is virtually zero.

That's not really true. Look at one if the more common uses for AI porn: taking a photo of someone and making them nude.

Deepfake porn exists and it does harm

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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Humans hallucinating about AI.

Humans "hallucinate" in the AI way constantly, which is why I don't see them as a barrier to LLMs replacing humans in many contexts. It really isn't unusual for a human to make stuff up or be unaware of stuff.

> Humans "hallucinate" in the AI way constantly

This is more and more clearly false. Humans get things wrong certainly, but the manner in which they get things wrong is just not comparable to how the LLMs get things wrong, beyond the most superficial comparison.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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This is the same argument that people used for video games, "rock music" and violent movies. I would argue that AI generated porn might be more ethical than traditional porn because the risk of the models being abused or trafficked is virtually zero.

> because the risk of the models being abused or trafficked is virtually zero. That's not really true. Look at one if the more common uses for AI porn: taking a photo of someone and making them nude. Deepfake porn exists and it does harm

The harms associated with someone creating a deep fake of you are real but they're pretty insignificant compared to the harms associated with being sex trafficked or being exposed to an STI or being unable to find traditional employment after working in the industry.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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My hunch is that they don't have a way to stop anything, so they are creating verticals to at least contain porn, medical, higher-ed users.

I'm pretty sure that if they didn't deliberately chose to train on sex chat/stories, etc, then the LLM wouldn't be any good at it. The model isn't getting this capability by training on WikiPedia or Reddit. So, it's not a matter of them not being able to do a good job of preventing the model from doing it, therefore giving up and instead encouraging it to do it (which anyways makes no sense), but rather them having c…

>The model isn't getting this capability by training on WikiPedia or Reddit

I don't know about the former, but the latter absolutely has sexually explicit material that could make the model more likely to generate erotic stories, flirty chats, etc.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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I realized they jumped the shark when they announced the pivots to ads and porn. Markets haven’t caught on yet.

The porn pivot makes perfect sense. Porn is already quite fake and unconvincing and none of that matters.

People spin up ablated models for pennies. You don’t need advanced reasoning for this crap. OpenAI has 8 billion plus in burn. I guess it’s all effectively paying for brand awareness?
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