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Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by thewebguyd »

tristor wrote: post #115
vessenes wrote: post #98

For the haters here - Apple sells roughly 2x as many iPads as Macs (including MacBooks). Roughly as many iPad Pros as laptops. I've cycled through using an iPad Pro as my main device on and off over the years - particularly the cellular modem has been a draw. For coding, they're terrible, as they are for longer form writing. I've ultimately shrunk down to the small size and use it as a kindle/gaming replacement. I th…

I mean, that makes sense given what the "haters" are saying, and indeed what you yourself admit. If this is just a device for passive consumption of entertainment, then ultimately it's a consumer-facing use case, and there are MANY MANY MANY more consumers than there are creators, whether that creation is a photo or a line of code. So of course more devices are sold, because you need a laptop (due to mostly software,…

It could be a great device for certain types of creation also.

I use mine for editing photos. But, I still have to start and end the process with Lightroom classic on my Mac because of stupid decisions by Adobe to rent-seek with cloud storage, offering no local-stroage workflow option with the iPad app (and deliberately leaving out some features only available in LR Classic).

Likewise, I would love to do all of my photoshop work on the iPad. It's a great immersive experience with the Apple Pencil vs. sitting down with a mouse and keyboard on a computer, but yet again, Adobe cripples the iPad app compared to the desktop app.

And those particular use cases aren't Apple's fault. I'm less and less frustrated with iPad OS as a whole, particularly with windowing in 26 (though it could use some polish). It's got external display support, a file manager, access to external storage, audio input select now, etc. But Adobe (and others) are still making crippled mobile applications for it instead of just doing work to port over the full desktop experience on a device that is now just as capable.

Sure you can't code on it (very well), but I feel like Apple should start putting some pressure on Adobe and the other creative-suite of software companies to beef up the iPad experience, maybe offer some incentive or something.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by bottlepalm »

walkabout wrote: post #53
whimsicalism wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the walled-garden completely destroys the ipads potential as a productivity device.

How ? I've never understood this. There's tons of good software for creating things in the App Store.

iPad has the power to play a majority of Steam games, Windows apps, linux distributions, etc.. but due to it being so locked down, it's essentially a youtube machine. iPad is a joke.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by medlazik »

I don't understand why there isn't a market for 15"+ iPads. 13" is just too small for home use and too heavy for using it without a stand, might as well make it much bigger

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by wslh »

tyleo wrote: post #144
overgard wrote: post #37

I get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because…

I did a performance test over the weekend of compilation times across 4 projects using 4 devices. My M4 MacBook Pro is faster than my modern i9 desktop that work spent $$$ on... iPad feels like a genie trapped in a bottle to me. It has that same M4 but there's so much less to use it for. Too bad I can't just set it by my PC and throw workloads at the processor or something. Continuity works well enough as a second sc…

I am looking forward for real competition to Apple which ironically will be better for Apple users/developers. You don't buy a McClaren for transporting your kids to the school faster.

PS: I don't think GPU continuity will work well over USB-C.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by bottlepalm »

Insanity wrote: post #118

I currently have an m1 iPad pro, and I use it daily. Do I get the pro performance out of it? Probably not. I might still upgrade to the m5 for the better display though. These are my use-cases FWIW: - Goodnotes w/ the apple pen during work - YouTube during dinner - Kindle App for technical books (and regular Kindle device for fiction) - Browsing the internet - Streaming games with Xbox streaming I travel for work one…

These use cases are so sad for a device with so much power. Look what Apple has reduced us to.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by thewebguyd »

kimbernator wrote: post #57
sylens wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was starting this as a hobby, my first step would not be to spend several hundred dollars on a tablet and pen. I'd probably grab some sketchbooks and pencils first for <$50 and see if it sticks for more than a month.

Gear Acquisition Syndrome. It's interesting how many people try to pick up new hobbies to justify large purchases when it rarely works out that way

It'd be better if we could just all be honest with ourselves.

If you have the disposal income, no need to justify it outside of "it's a cool gadget and I want to play with it."

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by bottlepalm »

dcreater wrote: post #112

At this point, I think its just very irresponsible of Apple putting these kind of chips in the iPad and then given 99% of the users no way to actually harness that power. Occupy TSMC line time and cause global geopolitical struggles for what??

Somehow the most powerful capable chips hardware wise, are at the same time the least capable software wise. I thought Apple was supposed to be the 'bicycle for the mind', what happened?

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by GeorgeTirebiter »

walkabout wrote: post #52
sylens wrote: post #4

I have a 2018 iPad Pro that is due for replacement but I cannot bring myself to spend the money on a new iPad. No matter how much I think I'll use it, it becomes a web browsing and YouTube machine on the couch. It's a shame because I think the hardware design is quite good, but the OS itself is so limiting, even with the "improvements" iPadOS 26 introduced.

I'm still on an older 12.9" Pro but will definitely upgrade at some point—and may not bother with another (personal—work-supplied is another matter) MacBook when my M1 starts to get long in the tooth in a couple years, now that Preview is available on iPads. It beats the hell out of either laptops or phones, for me, for these tasks: - Music. Excellent as a sheet music display; can record and edit midi quite well; pla…

I have an M1 12.9" iPP -- I find it's almost useless for reading because it weighs so much. I ended up buying a $ 90 Android 11" tablet which has a 'good enough' screen for reading. (Obv also does email, photos, AI, etc).

If I could develop on the iPP, FOR the iPP --- build professional-quality apps on the iPP --- I would be happier. The Logitech detachable kbd is remarkably good, I have no complaints typing on it all day. iOS is a straightjacket.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by dstroot »

tyleo wrote: post #144
overgard wrote: post #37

I get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because…

I did a performance test over the weekend of compilation times across 4 projects using 4 devices. My M4 MacBook Pro is faster than my modern i9 desktop that work spent $$$ on... iPad feels like a genie trapped in a bottle to me. It has that same M4 but there's so much less to use it for. Too bad I can't just set it by my PC and throw workloads at the processor or something. Continuity works well enough as a second sc…

Second CPU idea is brilliant. I’d buy an iPad for second screen, second CPU and occasional plane/hotel Netflix/Youtube.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by davidcollantes »

overgard wrote: post #37

I get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because…

For work I need an SSH client to access remote servers, and a web browser for when ClickOps is needed. Long battery life, and a tack sharp touch screen are gladly accepted. An iPad is the perfect "laptop" for me.
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