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Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
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Re: Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
#162My hope is that this lets some more people wake up and finally make Linux on the smartphone a reality.
I secretly wish Framework will do this one day.
Re: Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
#163I hope that F-Droid, the FSF or anything like that will initiate a complaint in US or EU.
I would happily give a fund for that purpose.
Re: Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
#164from what i understand: - if you compile from source and deploy via adb nothing changes - if you use a closed source binary, the identity of the owner becomes mandatory so the issue is anonymously published closed source software?
> anonymously published closed source software
Yes, like the software for my ebike conversion kit for which I only have the APK. I have vetted the software and would like to install it. If Google blocks that, then fuck them.
Re: Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
#165> This logic is flawed: historically, we've seen malware slip through the Play Store—signed and “verified”—several times. Yeah, check for all the fake sora apps in the play store.
This is a weak argument. If things have slipped through the cracks with someone actively reviewing it, the alternative cant be 'lets not do any checking whatsoever'. There are better arguments against this that other commenters here have provided (including "my device, my rule") but this isnt a strong argument.
It's not "let's not do any checking whatsoever", it's just "let individual users choose between Google's ineffective checking and alternative app sources that users can trust or not trust with zero involvement from Google".
Re: Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
#166from what i understand: - if you compile from source and deploy via adb nothing changes - if you use a closed source binary, the identity of the owner becomes mandatory so the issue is anonymously published closed source software?
> - if you use a closed source binary, the identity of the owner becomes mandatory
So I can't just build an apk and distribute to others? What's the process for providing identity?
Re: Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
#167It's a puzzle to me how Google moves to restrain app install out of its store, while Apple loses in court for similar practices.
Re: Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
#168Installing any app I want outside the Play Store was the primary reason I decided to go with Android, despite most of the people I know using iPhones. If I can't do this anymore, I may as well switch and be able to use iMessage and FaceTime with them.
You can still install apps outside the play store, but the developer does need to verify their signing information. Effectively this means that any app you install must have a paper trail to the originating developer, even if its not on the app store. On one hand, I can see the need for this to track down virus creators, but on the other, it provides Google transparency and control over side loaded app. It IS a conce…
Google is following the same game plan we saw when they decided that the full version of uBlock Origin (the version that is still effective on YouTube) should no longer be allowed within their browser monopoly.
The fact that there was a temporary workaround didn't change the endgame.
It's just there to boil the frog more slowly and keep you from hopping out of the pot.
It's the same game plan Microsoft used to force users to use an online Microsoft account to log onto their local computer.
Temporary workarounds are not the same thing as publicly abandoning the policy.
Re: Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
#169Installing any app I want outside the Play Store was the primary reason I decided to go with Android, despite most of the people I know using iPhones. If I can't do this anymore, I may as well switch and be able to use iMessage and FaceTime with them.
>I may as well switch and be able to use iMessage and FaceTime with them
I, too, love vendor lockin.
Re: Android's sideloading limits are its most anti-consumer move
#170Installing any app I want outside the Play Store was the primary reason I decided to go with Android, despite most of the people I know using iPhones. If I can't do this anymore, I may as well switch and be able to use iMessage and FaceTime with them.
>I may as well switch and be able to use iMessage and FaceTime with them I, too, love vendor lockin.
Another road that leads to BBM it seems.
It’s utterly bizarre how BBM could have been the iMessage and WhatsApp and who knows what else. But rich out-of-touch people thinking exclusivity is a perk in a commodities market just shows how business savvy and wealth are in reality disconnected from eachother.