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Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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What technology and progress has the boring company enabled?

A breakthrough in tunnel cost and speed per meter. Have you read into this at all or is this just another snarky comment?

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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Another day, another invocation of the false dichotomy fallacy. If the truth isn't somewhere in the middle, then by definition it must be on one of the two extreme edges. That's a pretty bad (and ironic) fallacy to commit, unless you think everything in this world (or at least all regulations) are binary (either perfect or completely worthless)

> If the truth isn't somewhere in the middle, then by definition it must be on one of the two extreme edges In one dimension. If both sides are fundamentally wrong, the middle is probably also mischaracterised. Pro-and anti-phlogiston theorists [1] weren’t validated by a little phlogiston. They were superseded by oxygen theory. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston_theory

> "In one dimension."

Not even in one dimension. But that is obviously also a categorization/composition issue and therefore subject to other, potentially fallacious and accordingly named, pitfalls.

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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Indeed! I think the Vegas loop has immense potential. There are many ways we can iterate on this concept. Perhaps we can use bigger cars, in a bus like shape to transport more people at once. Or we could remove the batteries to save cost and weight and supply the cars with an external power source. There is immense potential here and I believe this will revolutionise transport.

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Musk uses his resources to lobby against mass transit in America.

He is degrowth in ways that suit his selfish preferences (contracts for his companies over better alternatives, and wanting to avoid any proximity to other Americans in public).

edit due to rate limiting: Yes Musk is one of the reasons we don't have high speed rail in California at least. He admitted to creating Hyperloop as a fake and hopeless project simply as a campaign to get high speed rail canceled. And he used DOGE against it to further cripple the project. He used government authority to contribute to regulations against mass transit. His projects are literally fake psyops that don't deliver transit and exist to spoil mass transit options from growing.

We had mass transit before he got rich. Are you opposed to it because it's not perfect so we shouldn't do it at all instead of doing more of it? I don't understand the degrowth attitude of preferring luxury options that scale worse.

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It's possible to be pro-progress while being anti-this specific thing. In particular, Elon Musk came out and admitted that he hates trains and busses and admitted that he just made up Boring Co to distract from giving money to them. The Boring Co tunnels in Vegas are a boondoggle and not even well designed (whether that's due to lack of funds or stupidity or corruption, who knows!). The problem is the opportunity cos…

In the last 50 years, well before Elon was involved and supposedly sabotaging all this great subway progress, how many new subway projects in America were started and successfully finished?

Maybe Elon's solution is a requirement to make ANY progress because the other ones have stalled out?

I would love a subway. Here in Austin, they proposed a bunch of new trains and subways for billions of dollars. We all voted yes and funded it. After a multi-year study, they revised it to about 1/10th the scope and doubled the cost. It still hasn't materialized.

Do you all realize the problem here?

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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> What an acidic thing to fling. if you don't automatically assume bad faith when dealing with hypercapitalist private infrastructure projects, you're going to be taken advantage of. every time. that, or you're on the payroll. there's not a ton of wiggle room here.

You are falling prey to the myth of the cynical genius > A further three studies based on the data of about 200,000 individuals from 30 countries debunked these lay beliefs as illusionary by revealing that cynical (vs. less cynical) individuals generally do worse on cognitive ability and academic competency tasks. Cross-cultural analyses showed that competent individuals held contingent attitudes and endorsed cynicis…

i may be stupid but i'm not wrong.

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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Yes. 28 years ago I founded a small a software company (4 employees) that made test software for a Tier 1 automotive vendor's ECUs. I sold the IP to them in 2007. Next question? Or do you think my background makes my opinion invalid for another reason?

It's confusing how someone who has tried to build anything of substance, in say California, couldn't have run into a regulation or ten stifling innovation. I for one have seen mid-5 figures spent on a dumpster enclosure, because of building codes.

Stifled by a dumpster!!!

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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Indeed! I think the Vegas loop has immense potential. There are many ways we can iterate on this concept. Perhaps we can use bigger cars, in a bus like shape to transport more people at once. Or we could remove the batteries to save cost and weight and supply the cars with an external power source. There is immense potential here and I believe this will revolutionise transport.

so, a subway?

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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At this point we all know Musk only did this as part of his general "hyperloop" boondoggle to kill California high speed rail. Why do we have to continue to pretend this was anything other than an idiotic PR stunt?

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Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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Offtopic: an infrastructure project isn't innovation.

> an infrastructure project isn't innovation What? The Pyramids, Roman aqueducts, domes, et cetera weren’t innovations?

Engineers vs mechanics. Architects vs construction workers.
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