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Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by jeroenhd »

pzmarzly wrote: post #4

Counterpoint: I lost a domain when a registrar went out of business, and another when a registrar bumped the price 10x and refused to give me authenticode unless I physically show up to their office. Sure, I cheapened out and used shady cheap registrars, and this all happened a while ago so things are probably more regulated now, but for comparison I never permanently lost access to hosted email. (Losing access tempo…

Even if you don't do dealings with shady registrars or TLDs (.af was a fun TLD until the Taliban returned to power...), you can lose your domain. For instance, lots of British people lost their .eu domains when they were no longer EU citizens thanks to Brexit.

On the one hand, using national TLDs can be a problem if the area you live in is no longer considered part of your country (I imagine .ua owners may have that problem in the future with the way things are going). On the other hand, using TLDs like .com/.net/.ai/.io puts your domain under control of foreign law enforcement (US for .com/.net, UK for .ai/.io).

Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by graemep »

jeroenhd wrote: post #161
pzmarzly wrote: post #4

Counterpoint: I lost a domain when a registrar went out of business, and another when a registrar bumped the price 10x and refused to give me authenticode unless I physically show up to their office. Sure, I cheapened out and used shady cheap registrars, and this all happened a while ago so things are probably more regulated now, but for comparison I never permanently lost access to hosted email. (Losing access tempo…

Even if you don't do dealings with shady registrars or TLDs (.af was a fun TLD until the Taliban returned to power...), you can lose your domain. For instance, lots of British people lost their .eu domains when they were no longer EU citizens thanks to Brexit. On the one hand, using national TLDs can be a problem if the area you live in is no longer considered part of your country (I imagine .ua owners may have that…

It really ought to be standard that people who already have domains when something like this happens retain them.

It looks like .io will change jurisdiction. Another thing to consider with regards to jurisdictions. There is a good argument for you own national TLD.

That said, a lot of ccTLDs are not that restrictive. Anyone can register a .uk for example (so, Scottish nationalists have one less thing to deal with in their plans).

In the case of Ukraine they will probably want to allow people in any territory they lost to retain .ua domains as a way of maintaining a claim (that is assuming their rules are restrictive in the first place).

Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by bxsioshc »

VariousPrograms wrote: post #62
bxsioshc wrote: post #31

I never really understood why "owning" a domain is any more owning than you own your Gmail address: a company is letting you use it and that works until they don't. What an I missing?

You probably won't get hacked and have your domain taken down for distributing malware. But you also probably won't be randomly banned by Google/Proton. Neither feels like "full, unbannable control of my email" to me. If anything, I'm more concerned about my little old domain getting hijacked than getting banned from a hosted email account.

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Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by lxgr »

pseidemann wrote: post #47
lxgr wrote: post #32

> With this solution, there's a high chance that if they ban you by mistake (AI bots are to blame), they will not disable the forwarding mechanism. Why bet on that instead of doing it the other way around (i.e. making the self-operated mail server the primary that forwards to the service provider inbox), or at least practicing doing so by pointing the MX records accordingly?

Afaik sending emails is much harder than receiving, because of several layers of anti-spam measurements, which don't apply for receiving (besides local spam filters).

Yes, but send and receive paths don't have to be symmetric. It's perfectly fine to send via the third-party provider and receive to your own server and forward to the third-party provider.

The forwarding MX would need to support things like ARC and DKIM, though, or the forwarded emails themselves run a high risk of getting dropped as spam by the third-party provider.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by trallnag »

I have my own domain trallnag.com for this purpose, but it's always a huge pain to spell the domain to someone in person or over the phone. The leaf being a made up word does not make things simpler. So for these cases I've started to fall back on gmail.com or outlook.com

Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by Terr_ »

jrm4 wrote: post #37

Been doing this for years, and surprised he didn't seem to mention the other benefit: "infinity" email addresses. Oh, rando burger spot wants an email for some free fries? Great, hit me up at randoburgerspot@"mydomain".com .

I've occasionally pondered some sort of phone app that that can dynamically create a random new forwarding email, and keep track of what purpose it was for and who you shared it with.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by robocat »

jcynix wrote: post #56
imiric wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like that as well, but it's exhausting having to explain every time that, no, I don't in fact work at randoburgerspot...

Easy, just remove the vowels from the local part of the address: rndbrgr@example.com Even easier: I have a list of pre-generated fantasy addresses on my smartphone and can pass one to randoburgerspot on the fly.

> fantasy addresses

Highly unrecommended if it's important or you're a repeat customer. It is easiest to pick a consistent generation scheme that helps you to remember the email address you gave. Obviously record it somewhere too (a folder for the first you've-just-signed-up email is easy)

For throwaway accounts it doesn't matter what you give.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by rpdillon »

hungryhobbit wrote: post #57
jrm4 wrote: post #37

Been doing this for years, and surprised he didn't seem to mention the other benefit: "infinity" email addresses. Oh, rando burger spot wants an email for some free fries? Great, hit me up at randoburgerspot@"mydomain".com .

Spamgourmet lets you do this for free without your own domain, and has other great features also.

Been using spam gourmet for 20 years. Basically a flawless service.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by rpdillon »

daveidol wrote: post #120
hungryhobbit wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spamgourmet lets you do this for free without your own domain, and has other great features also.

Lots of these services get their domains blocklisted eventually, sadly.

I found two providers in 20 years that blocked my xoxy.net spam gourmet address. It's not that big of a problem.

Re: Become unbannable from your email

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Post by BoredPositron »

paranoidrobot wrote: post #113
jrm4 wrote: post #37

Been doing this for years, and surprised he didn't seem to mention the other benefit: "infinity" email addresses. Oh, rando burger spot wants an email for some free fries? Great, hit me up at randoburgerspot@"mydomain".com .

I do this, too - but I've been running into more and more companies that block you from using their company name in the email address. It also results in awkward conversations if you have to talk to staff. I had ordered some pet supplies online a while ago registered like this. Then I go in store more recently and they ask "Do you have an account with us?", I give them that email when asked, which causes them to paus…

I had a small mom and pop shop threaten me with legal action because of copyright infringement...
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