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Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by collingreen »

atmosx wrote: post #78
Gigachad wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don’t see how this happens for government work though. Surely they have enough year round work to hire people in house for it.

At the government level, it’s mostly driven by ideology. I never came across a situation where a service improved after being "liberalized". Never. Not once. It is always end up in a combo of: poorer quality and (much) higher cost. I’ve seen too many cases where people suffer the consequences of their own ideas being implemented (large or lower scale), convinced that if we just turn this knob a little more, it’ll fin…

What does liberalized mean here? Also if you have time which ideology was holding the government/deloitte back here? I'm not sure what the message is here but I'm willing to with some more concrete.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by jeltz »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #158
decimalenough wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my experience with using a $WITCH for a large support engagement, the A team woos you, the B team is what you get initially, and as soon as they think you've got your eye off the ball, they swap in the Z team. This was for a contract where we made it very clear that quality/skill was paramount and we would happily pay above market rates forever if they could maintain it. Of course they got greedy and lost the de…

But why would you go a WITCH company if skill was paramount and you were ready to pay above market rate? You may come into a McDonalds and ask for the best coffee they have and be able to pay above market rate, but they wouldn't be able to help you even if they wanted because that's not their specialization.

But what is their specialization? Because as far as I know they do a McDonald's quality job but charge wat more than a McDonald's rate.

The only use I have is so that cowardly executives can do what they already had planned to do but now can point to a bunch of paper that nobody will actually read in detail.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by citizenpaul »

trollbridge wrote: post #121

For a bit of background, this report concerned a problematic IT system that was incorrectly sending life-ruining fines to people for not meeting their requirements to apply for so many jobs, accept jobs, etc. whilst on government assistance. The fines came in the form of a judgment debt so people would literally have a debt bailiff show up and start carting their property away. Due to a seriously flawed IT system, th…

I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic.

The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck.

Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when it results in men with guns being dispatched.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

citizenpaul wrote: post #163
trollbridge wrote: post #121

For a bit of background, this report concerned a problematic IT system that was incorrectly sending life-ruining fines to people for not meeting their requirements to apply for so many jobs, accept jobs, etc. whilst on government assistance. The fines came in the form of a judgment debt so people would literally have a debt bailiff show up and start carting their property away. Due to a seriously flawed IT system, th…

I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when…

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Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by recursive »

chris_wot wrote: post #154
trollbridge wrote: post #121

For a bit of background, this report concerned a problematic IT system that was incorrectly sending life-ruining fines to people for not meeting their requirements to apply for so many jobs, accept jobs, etc. whilst on government assistance. The fines came in the form of a judgment debt so people would literally have a debt bailiff show up and start carting their property away. Due to a seriously flawed IT system, th…

Why bother with going through Deloitte? Just go straight to OpenAI.

Dear OpenAI: Whose door should I break down today? There's no need to explain the reason, just give me the address.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by iamleppert »

I work in a building where Deloitte has an office. I see their employees riding the elevator and sometimes in other common areas. I just same here to say they are some of the most depressed and down-trodden group of people I have ever seen. They are noticeably different than other employees in the building.

What's wrong with working at Deloitte that is does this to people?

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by saltyoldman »

trollbridge wrote: post #121

For a bit of background, this report concerned a problematic IT system that was incorrectly sending life-ruining fines to people for not meeting their requirements to apply for so many jobs, accept jobs, etc. whilst on government assistance. The fines came in the form of a judgment debt so people would literally have a debt bailiff show up and start carting their property away. Due to a seriously flawed IT system, th…

It's the problem in the first place - they probably DID use Deloitte to build the original system.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by hooverd »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #164
citizenpaul wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when…

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what's that anecdote about the stupid and industrious?

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by u_sama »

sidcool wrote: post #159

I have worked in Consultancies for a long time. And many people here don't know what they do. Of course, there are bad apples that cheat. But a lot of good value in consultancies too! One evidence is that they are still around and earn billions.

I am legitimately curious what is the day to day work, and what is the consumer itch they itch for the companies.

Could you develop on your experiences and what is the missing POV that makes so many HNers be against consultancies?

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