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Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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Post by dismalaf »

exasperaited wrote: post #155
dismalaf wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://x.com/SFaeze_Alavi/status/1973812507346416121?t=Fotr...

That is an organised, scheduled protest in London, about longstanding actions in Gaza. Why should it stop, particularly? You (with the person who tweeted) are misrepresenting both this protest and the opinions of the people who are protesting.

People on the ground at many of these protests are saying that enough people are celebrating the attack. In London they were attacking the police. What % need to support the attack before it's a problem?

Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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Post by WorldMaker »

exasperaited wrote: post #66

Every time I read about Wayland compositors, I find myself thinking the same thing: don't Wayland compositors have too many responsibilities?

My understanding is that Wayland compositors have fewer responsibilities than either an X11 window manager or X11 compositor despite doing the job for both.

Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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Post by cycomanic »

squigz wrote: post #82
ducktective wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, still on each workspace, everything is visible on i3. I wonder how scroll to the right differs from i3's tabbed panes.

I might give Niri a shot at some point, but yes, this is my thought too: this is more or less the same as having multiple tabbed panes, which enables the grouping GP refers to.

I was running i3 and sway foe years and tabbed tiles never really clicked for me the same way scrolling did. The first time I used a scrolling WM (I tried on of the plugins for sway or hyprland IIRC) it was an immediate revelation. However the sway/hyprland version were always a bit quirky, while niri "just works".

For those on older niri versions I have to say the "zoom out" overview feature is definitely worth the upgrade. As another poster said it really fixes the one issue on scrolling/ tiling wms, which is getting lost.

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Post by ibizaman »

WD-42 wrote: post #122
argiopetech wrote: post #14

Niri convinced me to give up xmonad. I ran xmonad exclusively for 14 years. Being able to have an unlimited number of windows on a desktop (without continually switching the tiling structure) makes them collections of topics rather than having multiple desktops bounded by what fits comfortably. What used to be a switch from the "editor and terminals" desktop to the "browser" desktop is now horizontal movement on the…

The only thing I feel like is missing from niri is a scratch layer. There are some apps that just don’t need to be tiled and it’s nice to have access to them immediately no matter “where” you are. Perfect example is matrix client. If the wife texts me I want to become able to pop that sucker up immediately and reply, not find the “matrix client workspace”. Plus it’s tiny and doesn’t need to be tiled. Same with media…

Would this scratch your itch? https://github.com/probeldev/niri-float-sticky

I didn’t try it myself though. I found it while scrolling https://github.com/Vortriz/awesome-niri

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Post by boomskats »

benoliver999 wrote: post #42
argiopetech wrote: post #14

Niri convinced me to give up xmonad. I ran xmonad exclusively for 14 years. Being able to have an unlimited number of windows on a desktop (without continually switching the tiling structure) makes them collections of topics rather than having multiple desktops bounded by what fits comfortably. What used to be a switch from the "editor and terminals" desktop to the "browser" desktop is now horizontal movement on the…

Yes same here but with i3, I ran it for over 10 years but niri was just an instant 'aha' moment for me. I will say, recent builds have a 'mini map' sort of zoom-out feature that I quite like - my one critique of niri was that I would sometimes get 'lost'.

I drew that once in a github issue and next thing I knew it was there! https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri/discussions/352#discussioncom...

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Post by bilkow »

Symmetry wrote: post #111

I've been happily running xmonad as my window manager from within Gnome since (checks git) 2011. Is there a reasonable way to run Niri inside one?

You can run niri from within other DEs, but I'm unsure whether it works well for your use-case. From the docs[0]:

"You can also run niri inside an existing desktop session. Then it will open as a window, where you can give it a try. Note that this windowed mode is mainly meant for development, so it is a bit buggy (in particular, there are issues with hotkeys)."

IIRC in this case the Mod key is by default Alt instead of Super.

[0] https://yalter.github.io/niri/Getting-Started.html

Re: Niri – A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor

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Post by cycomanic »

ryukoposting wrote: post #120
argiopetech wrote: post #14

Niri convinced me to give up xmonad. I ran xmonad exclusively for 14 years. Being able to have an unlimited number of windows on a desktop (without continually switching the tiling structure) makes them collections of topics rather than having multiple desktops bounded by what fits comfortably. What used to be a switch from the "editor and terminals" desktop to the "browser" desktop is now horizontal movement on the…

I've been using i3 for 7 years now, and my immediate response to the scrolling thing was "why?" and after reading your comment, I'm still trying to understand. As one would expect for any tiling wm, the screenshots only show how pretty it can be, and don't really illustrate how it helps with productivity. Would you mind going into more detail on what actually happens when you move horizontally? What happens when you…

I was using i3/sway for years previously as well (and some awesome, qtile before that). The big difference is window size.

Generally I believe most people like to order their workspacesroughly by topic, e.g. all work related Windows on one, browser or on another, some also do all terminals on one... Now with sway/i3 I often found myself in the situation where I was e.g. on the "browser" desktop and you read something you quickly want to try in, e.g. ipython, or you are working on a latex document and want to briefly open a PDF. In i3 that would reduce the size of your original window, so you end up switching to a workspace (or you manually switch to tabbed tiling) for me the mental overhead was significantly higher and I was ending up creating more and more workspaces just to hold temporary terminals.

This is actually related to why I switched to i3 in the first place, I just felt vertical tiling is the only tiling that makes sense in 95% of the cases and that just worked best in i3. But that comes at the cost that you are limited to only 3-4 tiles per workspace (depending on screensize) now in niri I have infinite theoretically. Which means I spend less mental overhead when I want to open another window (which is really thebgoal of tiling wms in my opinion, reduce thinking spend on window management)

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Post by cycomanic »

WD-42 wrote: post #133
atlintots wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my case I've found niri's workflow quite nice for these scratch windows, since every new window opens to the immediate left of the currently focused window, and doesn't affect the size or tiling of any other windows, they're just shifted to the right.

That only works for windows that you would be opening and closing, not persistent ones like chat apps or music players?

Many of those apps minimise when closed and reopen when calling, so often it is not really an issue (although it's sometimes annoying that you have to specifically tell the apps to exit when you do want to close).

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Post by amlib »

desireco42 wrote: post #80
evgpbfhnr wrote: post #60

My only complain about niri is that after a few weeks without reboot I end up with ~500 terms open, as I often open a new shell to check something, get distracted, and forget about it as it scrolls out of the view... (I usually notice at the 400-500 mark because this machine starts swapping noticeably, and closing it all is a chore that usually ends in pkill without checking...) Maybe a bit more self discipline would…

that is actually dream come true... let's keep everything open always :)

and then you reboot the machine with full session restore working (whenever that's available for wayland) and get 500 terminal windows opening at the same time :)

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Post by aeon_ai »

exasperaited wrote: post #76
aeon_ai wrote: post #36

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I'm familiar with DHH's opinions -- Can you elaborate on how there are ethical implications/baggage associated with using FOSS? Must we leave the vicinity of people we don't always agree with?

I am relaxed about the small potential downsides of not being in the vicinity of people who lionize Tommy Robinson.

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