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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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The party refusing any kind of deal are Israel since their goal is annihilation of Palestinians. Hamas were ready from day one for a deal, their goal (contrary to israeli narrative of course) was to negotiate prisoner exchange for the 1000s of Palesitnian prisoners held by israel (including children). This is still their goal along with ceasefire and complete withdrawal from Gaza.

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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For reference: While the gas chambers were are the prominent way of death during the Holocaust, the majority of victims died of starvation. Starvation death looks like succumbing to a random sickness (the body is just too weak for a functional immune response), and thus saves the perpetrator from the usual psychological consequences of direct murder. This methodology was agreed on during the Wannsee conference in 194…

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Question: There is a repeated claim that more calories have been provided to the Gaza people than several other human crisis scenarios, but that Hamas is currently stealing it all. But I have never seen rampant obesity in Hamas prisoners that the IDF have captured alive? Hamas can't be extorting the Gazan people for those calories, the Gazan people have no money at this point by and large due to the huge swath of des…

Kinda silly logic, access to calories doesn't mean someone has to be obese.

Not saying that the claim is true, just that your logic is faulty.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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The claim I've heard them make is that the food aid is making it in, but being stolen by Hamas so that it can be resold at markup. How do you convince people that believe this that it isn't true (or is irrelevant)?

> stolen by Hamas And/or the Israel-backed ISIS groups[1][2]. [1]: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sytu2q1mel [2]: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-netanyahu-armi...

Hamas actually cleaned house of a couple of the leaders of these gangs recently.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Because it doesn't move the situation any closer to liberation of their people and their homeland. They have been willing to constantly fight, and constantly keep getting killed by an enemy with overwhelming advantages, for their cause for two years now. Why would you assume that being able to escape with their lives is suddenly more important to them?

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The Israelis (and their suppliers) are the ones with the power to end it. They have chosen this. There are actually other avenues you know. This is entirely on them.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Killing 736 Israeli civilians, 79 foreign nationals, and 379 Israeli military and security personnel, and kidnapping an additional 250 civilians is not, by any fathomable definition, genocide. It is a war crime for sure, but it's not genocide. Edit: the post I was replying to was claiming Hamas/the Palestinians perpetrated a genocide in Israel. It has since been edited to be a completely different thing.

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Question: There is a repeated claim that more calories have been provided to the Gaza people than several other human crisis scenarios, but that Hamas is currently stealing it all. But I have never seen rampant obesity in Hamas prisoners that the IDF have captured alive? Hamas can't be extorting the Gazan people for those calories, the Gazan people have no money at this point by and large due to the huge swath of des…

Have a look here:

https://apnews.com/article/mideast-wars-photo-gallery-hostag...

Plenty of Hamas fighters looking in pretty great shape.

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