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#162“We cannot hide away from human population growth, because it underlies so many of the other problems. All these things we talk about wouldn’t be a problem if the world was the size of the population that there was 500 years ago.” -- Goodall at 2002 WEF panel discussion on Amazon rainforest The population 500 years ago was around 500 million. The only way we return to this level is de-industrialization. Paul Ehrlich…
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#163“We cannot hide away from human population growth, because it underlies so many of the other problems. All these things we talk about wouldn’t be a problem if the world was the size of the population that there was 500 years ago.” -- Goodall at 2002 WEF panel discussion on Amazon rainforest The population 500 years ago was around 500 million. The only way we return to this level is de-industrialization. Paul Ehrlich…
>The only way we return to this level is de-industrialization. Unfortunately, we will return to that level. Then 25 years later, we'll be only half that number (or worse). >all of his predictions turned out to be dead wrong. Hilariously wrong, you mean. I especially like the ones about how the UK would be filled with cannibal savages by the 1980s, because everyone would be starving.
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't need to be sustained, the whole point is that eventually when the next generation ages up, the number of old people won't be as high.
However, in the intermediate stage, you are desperately short of working-age people to help support the massive aging population. This isn't a theoretical - most of Western Europe has been in this boat for a long time, and relies heavily on immigration to fill the labour gap (despite however much political posturing about wanting to restrict immigration) If we do this on a global scale, there is nowhere to draw immig…
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#166Rip Jane. We need more gentle souls like her, using soft power to get stuff done instead of bullying the world and everybody in it.
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#167If you find Jane Goodall inspirational, you may be delighted to learn about Anne Innis Dagg [0], whose studies of wild giraffe predates Goodall's study of chimps. The documentary "The Woman Who Loves Giraffes" [1] is fantastic and has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. The reason you might not know Dagg's name is essentially that she was denied tenure for being a woman. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Innis_Dagg [1] htt…
That was an absolutely lovely read. I did not think I would get so invested. However... I didn't know she died as well so the final sentence on her wiki article caught my off-guard :(
It's stated in the first sentence.
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#168Of possible interest:
"60 Minutes" re-published a 2018 interview about Tom Mangelsen with Jane Goodall:
Also, the "Speech for History" last year:
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
The full saga is humourous. from wiki. Gary Larson cartoon incident One of Gary Larson's Far Side cartoons shows two chimpanzees grooming. One finds a blonde human hair on the other and inquires, "Conducting a little more 'research' with that Jane Goodall tramp?"[114] Goodall herself was in Africa at the time. The Jane Goodall Institute thought the cartoon was in bad taste and had its lawyers draft a letter to Larson…
> In 1988, when Larson visited Goodall's research facility in Tanzania,[115] he was attacked by a chimpanzee named Frodo. This just made the whole story so much funnier. I'm really glad to have read it. Poor guy, but hilarious to read about.
I mean, Goodall liked the cartoon but that doesn't mean everyone likes it!
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
However, in the intermediate stage, you are desperately short of working-age people to help support the massive aging population. This isn't a theoretical - most of Western Europe has been in this boat for a long time, and relies heavily on immigration to fill the labour gap (despite however much political posturing about wanting to restrict immigration) If we do this on a global scale, there is nowhere to draw immig…
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Humans are humans, at the end of the day. Especially as someone who grew up at the height of EU open borders, I'm not real bothered which side of an imaginary line on a map someone happened to be born on