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Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by stephen_cagle » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:15 PM UTC

I still can't understand how functioning adults believe that releasing their work in two separate places is a good idea (Ai Studio and Vertex AI).

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:22 PM UTC

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Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by Computer0 » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:22 PM UTC

stephen_cagle wrote: post #161

I still can't understand how functioning adults believe that releasing their work in two separate places is a good idea (Ai Studio and Vertex AI).

I wonder how Gemini subscribers feel!

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by herpderperator » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:22 PM UTC

Serious question: If it's an improved 2.5 model, why don't they call it version 2.6? Seems annoying to have to remember if you're using the old 2.5 or the new 2.5. Kind of like when Apple released the third-gen iPad many years ago and simply called it the "new iPad" without a number.

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by barbazoo » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:22 PM UTC

phartenfeller wrote: post #149

It's weird that the just keep the version number. Why not release it as 2.6 or something else. Now it is confusing, do my existing workflows automatically use the updated version and if yes do I need to monitor them for unwanted changed behavior etc.

If you want stable models I think you could get that through Azure.

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by koakuma-chan » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:25 PM UTC

kilroy123 wrote: post #73

koakuma-chan wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hell yeah, GPT 35 Turbo

There are cheaper models. Could cut the bill in half or more.

davinci-001 xd

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by Sabinus » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:26 PM UTC

porridgeraisin wrote: post #117

diego_sandoval wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anyone from OpenAI is reading this, I have two complaints: 1. Using the "Projects" thing (Folder organization) makes my browser tab (on Firefox) become unusably slow after a while. I'm basically forced to use the default chats organization, even though I would like to organize my chats in folders. 2. After editing a message that you already sent,you get to select between the different branches of the chat (1/2, an…

And 3) On mobile (android) opening the keyboard scrolls the chat to the bottom! I sometimes want to type referring something from the middle of the LLMs last answer.

Projects should have their own memory system. Perhaps something more interactive than the existing Memories but projects need their own data (definitions, facts, draft documents) that is iterated on and referred to per project. Attached documents aren't it, the AI needs to be able to update the data over multiple chats.

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by skerit » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:28 PM UTC

herpderperator wrote: post #164

Serious question: If it's an improved 2.5 model, why don't they call it version 2.6? Seems annoying to have to remember if you're using the old 2.5 or the new 2.5. Kind of like when Apple released the third-gen iPad many years ago and simply called it the "new iPad" without a number.

That's why people called the second version of Sonnet v3.5 simply v3.6, and Anthropic acknowledged that by naming the next version v3.7

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by qafy » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:35 PM UTC

herpderperator wrote: post #164

Serious question: If it's an improved 2.5 model, why don't they call it version 2.6? Seems annoying to have to remember if you're using the old 2.5 or the new 2.5. Kind of like when Apple released the third-gen iPad many years ago and simply called it the "new iPad" without a number.

2.5 is not the version number, it's the generation of the underlying model architecture. Think of it like the trim level on a Mazda 3 hatchback. Mazda already has the Mazda 3 Sport in their lineup, then later they release the Mazda 3 Turbo which is much faster. When they release this new version of the vehicle its not called the Mazda 4... that would be an entirely different vehicle based on a new platform and powertrain etc (if it existed). The new vehicle is just a new trim level / visual refresh of the existing Mazda 3.

That's why Google names it like this, but I agree its dumb. Semver would be easier.

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by alwillis » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:35 PM UTC

herpderperator wrote: post #164

Serious question: If it's an improved 2.5 model, why don't they call it version 2.6? Seems annoying to have to remember if you're using the old 2.5 or the new 2.5. Kind of like when Apple released the third-gen iPad many years ago and simply called it the "new iPad" without a number.

It's pretty common to refer to models by the month and year they were released.

For example, the latest Gemini 2.5 Flash is known as "google/gemini-2.5-flash-preview-09-2025" [1].

[1]: https://openrouter.ai/google/gemini-2.5-flash-preview-09-202...