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Re: MrBeast Failed to Disclose Ads and Improperly Collected Children's Data

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Post by AlecSchueler »

general1465 wrote: post #147
justforfunhere wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was really good twist in the book. It made me think a lot what a normal Trisolaran conversation or exchange of information look like? How does a civilization evolve in this case?

How would such civilization even survive to discover a wheel if it can't recognize lie or misinformation. Even animals are able to lie - that's what mimicry and camouflage is all about. Imagination is also form of a lie. You are making stuff up in your head. Without imagination you don't have innovation. Without innovation you are stuck in cave scavenging whatever you can find.

They could have evolved with lies, developed the tech, then branched off into honesty later.

Re: MrBeast Failed to Disclose Ads and Improperly Collected Children's Data

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Post by general1465 »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #161
general1465 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would such civilization even survive to discover a wheel if it can't recognize lie or misinformation. Even animals are able to lie - that's what mimicry and camouflage is all about. Imagination is also form of a lie. You are making stuff up in your head. Without imagination you don't have innovation. Without innovation you are stuck in cave scavenging whatever you can find.

They could have evolved with lies, developed the tech, then branched off into honesty later.

That makes no sense either. Evolution means that this change happened gradually over the time. However the moment you have a group which is always honest and believes you and group which is allowed to lie, then the lying group will take over the honest group. To lie and manipulate is a massive advantage.

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Post by reaperducer »

knicholes wrote: post #102
posda999 wrote: post #96

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It’s not that strong. Evil isn’t just genocide. It would be evil of me to go around leaving trays full of beer outside just to drown slugs in them. It would be evil of me to shove razors into candy apples and hand them out at Halloween. Not all evil has to be some grand world-level conspiracy and it can still be evil.

Apples on Halloween are evil enough without the razor blades

Apples on Halloween are evil enough without the razor blades

Not as evil and Mary Janes. Or five pennies tied up in string.

Re: MrBeast Failed to Disclose Ads and Improperly Collected Children's Data

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Post by dotnet00 »

deadbabe wrote: post #25
smcl wrote: post #12

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When it comes to people that wealthy, the money they're using for their "good deeds" are the bare minimum they think they need to get you off their case. So when you say "I don't think someone should be a billionaire, that means something has gone seriously wrong" they can point to how he filmed himself giving a homeless guy a house.

It’s not that difficult to become a billionaire. If you can collect $1 dollar from a billion people, you’ll be a billionaire. If you increase that to $10, you only need 100 million people, roughly a third of the United States. What you need is some kind of platform on which you could collect those dollars. In recent history the internet has become a powerful platform and that is why we have so many more billionaires.…

If you're a billionaire, you don't feel the need to win the unaffected public's affections. You just do good because you have the resources to do it and can derive satisfaction from the people who are benefiting. You don't get to being ruthless enough to become a billionaire if you're dependent on what uninvolved strangers think of you. If you were, you'd be giving it all away well before piling up enough to become a billionaire.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

bmelton wrote: post #103
ActionHank wrote: post #51

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We've explained this all to our son at length and he's ended up fairly anti-Mr Beast. Problem is that other kids and their parents are convinced he's a swell guy and not marketing directly to them. This has been a great learning experience for our son about how the average person doesn't question what is happening or why.

Somewhere I hope there is a third kind of child who neither likes nor dislikes Mr Beast because of his content but who merely recognizes him for what he is, and opts in to the videos they seem likely to be entertained by while opting out of the videos they seem unlikely to be entertained by

His videos are obviously entertaining until you realize (for me it was a post few years ago here) how cruel they are. With likes of Squid Game you realize it is all fake. IMO few more years and YouTube will deplatform or deboost him.

Re: MrBeast Failed to Disclose Ads and Improperly Collected Children's Data

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Post by meindnoch »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #88
anukin wrote: post #72

I believe trusting any person whose incentive is to take money from you is not a prudent decision. This happens a lot if you make your purchase decisions based on influenzas promoting certain items.

To be fair that is a lot of professions: lawyers, accountants, doctors, dentists, car mechanics. All could advise you need a service you don’t really need but maximises their revenue.

Car mechanics and dentists do that all the time. I have not much experience with others.

Re: MrBeast Failed to Disclose Ads and Improperly Collected Children's Data

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Post by em-bee »

lesuorac wrote: post #159
dylan604 wrote: post #143

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Federal Express is not part of the federal anything, yet nobody is confused by that.

I'm sure people are confused by that. People get confused that the Chamber of Commerce isn't a government body.

even more so as in some countries and industries membership is mandatory.

but also, delegating certain responsibilities to non-govenment bodies does happen too. these then have quasi governmental authority.

Re: MrBeast Failed to Disclose Ads and Improperly Collected Children's Data

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Post by Ferret7446 »

general1465 wrote: post #162
AlecSchueler wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could have evolved with lies, developed the tech, then branched off into honesty later.

That makes no sense either. Evolution means that this change happened gradually over the time. However the moment you have a group which is always honest and believes you and group which is allowed to lie, then the lying group will take over the honest group. To lie and manipulate is a massive advantage.

In general, self defense is evolutionarily necessary or you'll get wiped out. Recall the stable state of the prisoners dilemma

Re: MrBeast Failed to Disclose Ads and Improperly Collected Children's Data

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Post by paulcole »

archerx wrote: post #141
paulcole wrote: post #98

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> I Worked For MrBeast, He's A Fraud He learned from the master lol. Missing a wide-eyed surprised face thumbnail though. I mean not a lot of people are out there making "I Worked for ________, They Were Awesome & I Was the One Who Sucked" videos, right?

I mean if you would have watched the videos you’d have seen that the points he makes are quite valid. Also you are “judging a book by its cover”.

> the points he makes are quite valid

Do you know they're valid or do you like to believe they're valid?

Re: MrBeast Failed to Disclose Ads and Improperly Collected Children's Data

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Post by efilife »

bluehatbrit wrote: post #138
efilife wrote: post #99

I hate this wording. Failure implies that he tried to, while he didn't even think about it

I disagree, the findings clearly show it as active malice rather than naive incompetence. From their findings, the company clearly did think about this stuff and tried to tick boxes while actively going around the rules. > In MrBeast’s 2024 Halloween sweepstakes, Feastables encouraged participants to submit up to 24 entries daily until October 30 for a chance to win $10,000, with a grand prize of $1,000,000 on Hallow…

I agree with your disagreement. It was more of "he didn't even think about following the rules"
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