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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by dotancohen »

random9749832 wrote: post #148
dotancohen wrote: post #123

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Intentionally killing children will never be justified, everything else serves as a decoy from acknowledging this simple fact.

Israel does not intentionally kill children. Hamas does. They state it clearly.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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actionfromafar wrote: post #159
bsaul wrote: post #150

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you were downvoted because people don't have any argument against your point : jews couldn't stop the holocaust by just surrendering, like hamas does. The two situations have absolutely nothing in common.

So as long as there is one Hamas left standing, everyone around must die. This is what you mean? Edit: can the non-Hamas surrender and avoid getting killed? They can't and the situations on the ground aren't that different. A Warzaw and Gazan survivor would have a lot in common.

So as long as there is one Hamas left standing, he could return the hostages and end the war.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by rustystump »

There is no discussion only mass flagging for anyone who isnt in lockstep on this. This is why politics is usually a subject to be avoided.

I am sure i will be flagged despite completely agreeing with the UN here but if any real change is to happen, minds must be changed which mass flagging does nothing to help. It only further entrenches people. But hey, at least it feels good right? Righteous and all that.

For those who disagree with the UN here, id be happy to change your mind. The us should not be involved in any of this.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by alexisread »

gspencley wrote: post #121
DaveExeter wrote: post #103

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Isn't that an Israeli "hasbara" site? The Israelis have admitted that they use the false cry of "antisemitism" to attack. "Calling it antisemitism - it’s a trick we always use." Shulamit Aloni, former Israeli Minister https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1896748975207952758

How is that a refutation? If I want to understand any position I would look for first sources. Say I want to understand why Russian invaded Ukraine, I would seek out Russian sources. When I try to understand the Palestinian position, I seek out Palestinian sources. The beautiful thing about intellectual honesty and openness is that you don't have to agree with any position. You can expose yourself to things that deep…

Quite simply Israelis and Jews are not the same group, otherwise you would be holding all Jews on the planet responsible for this genocide. Dismissing the source for being Israeli is not antisemitic.

There are many examples of Israeli sources lying about the state of things, from the baseless claims against UNRWA to the unconscionable excuse of burying medics and the ambulances they were in, to avoid wild dogs eating them.

Israeli sources rarely offer evidence to refute the claims presented in this report, and a cry of antisemitism, as stated, conflates Judeism with Israeli nationality, hence these sources are worthless at best.

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Post by mschuster91 »

actionfromafar wrote: post #83
imglorp wrote: post #79

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In the US, both parties were supportive in the last election. Not many choices.

One party had a long leash. The other cut the leash and yelled attaboy. Now acting mildly concerned when the neighbour downstreet (Qatar) got their chickens bombed.

> Now acting mildly concerned when the neighbour downstreet (Qatar) got their chickens bombed.

Thing is, what was bombed there was Hamas leadership, not some rank-and-file goons.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by eej71 »

alexisread wrote: post #165
gspencley wrote: post #121

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How is that a refutation? If I want to understand any position I would look for first sources. Say I want to understand why Russian invaded Ukraine, I would seek out Russian sources. When I try to understand the Palestinian position, I seek out Palestinian sources. The beautiful thing about intellectual honesty and openness is that you don't have to agree with any position. You can expose yourself to things that deep…

Quite simply Israelis and Jews are not the same group, otherwise you would be holding all Jews on the planet responsible for this genocide. Dismissing the source for being Israeli is not antisemitic. There are many examples of Israeli sources lying about the state of things, from the baseless claims against UNRWA to the unconscionable excuse of burying medics and the ambulances they were in, to avoid wild dogs eating…

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Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by hashbig »

flyinglizard wrote: post #132
_l7dh wrote: post #33

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The UN discredits itself: UNGA 2015-2023, 154 resolutions against Israel, 71 against all other countries _combined_. Of course it stems from the anti-Israeli bias of its members: a single Jewish state against 57 Muslim states.

Or it stems from Israel committing more war crimes than other nations
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