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Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by taneliv »

jimmydddd wrote: post #85
fsckboy wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

nor with "clackers", and insanely dangerous early 70s toy consisting of two glass balls you smash together at accelerated speeds right in front of your face. I guess they were trying to make us feel better that they were taking our jarts away.

Thanks for the reminder of that! This girl who sat behind me in second grade was great with clackers. Also, my memory is a bit foggy, but I don't think the jart ban was until eigth grade. So no causality there. Pop Rocks causing internal explosions and spider eggs in Bubble Yum occured somewhere between Clackers and Jarts. :-)

LOL, what I did just read? I did not understand the concrete nouns in your comment, except for "girl". The "spider eggs" you mention do not seem to be the ones I thought.

Without searching on the internet, I wouldn't even know the context on the level of which decade or country. Fascinating!

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by noduerme »

__alexs wrote: post #159
noduerme wrote: post #156

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For anyone who struggles to understand what fascism is, the comment above is fascist trolling in its purest form. And here's why: The essence of fascism is to explain away hatred toward other groups of people by dehumanizing them. The hatred of an outside group is necessary, in the fascist framework, to organize one group of people into a unit who will follow a leader unquestioningly. Taking part in crimes against th…

Jreg is not a fascist. He is an anti Zionist jew. This is sort of like calling The Producers fascist propaganda.

This is another troll. I'm Jewish, and last I checked claiming to be Jewish does not exempt anyone from being called a fascist. Tacking "anti-Zionist" onto that, I could name a dozen explicitly fascist organizations which are anti-Zionist off the top of my head.

So I don't care what identity the person uses to backfill their ideology, it is still a pure fascist troll. And picking such an identity just makes it more obvious.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by lazide »

righthand wrote: post #44
cschep wrote: post #25

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Is this the equivalent to the humans nuking the sky to fight the robots in the Matrix? I don't think that worked.

I don’t think our basis for what works and what doesn’t should stem from fiction.

Especially since even in fiction, that entire backstory had clearly been manipulated/outright made up by the clank.. uh. Machines.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by discomrobertul8 »

bbor wrote: post #134
lovich wrote: post #128

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> First I saw you use "global health crisis" to describe AI psychosis which seems like something one would only conceive of out of genuine hatred of AI I’m mildly positive on AI but fully believe that AI psychosis is a thing based on having 1 friend and 1 cousin who have gone completely insane with LLMs, to the point where 1 of them refuses to converse with anyone including in person. They will only take your input a…

"Global health crisis" is still an absurd thing to say. The WHO lists three emergencies: COVID-19 (at least 7M dead), Cholera (1-4M cases & 21-143K deaths per year), and Monkeypox (220 deaths since 2022, but could grow exponentially if not contained). By comparison, "psychosis symptoms exacerbated by new technology" doesn't deserve to be in the same conversation. P.S. I'm sure you've already tried, but please don't t…

Just because the WHO doesn't list it doesn't mean it's not a crisis. The negative effect on the mental health of teenage girls caused by social media is well understood, even if it's not described by the WHO as an emergency.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by discomrobertul8 »

serf wrote: post #76
Jcampuzano2 wrote: post #60

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Maybe you're in different circles than me, but the term clankers is very well known at this point in all my groups, including non tech adjacent people. Everyone makes jokes about clankers and it's caught on like wildfire.

it's known in my circles too, but it's one of those words known as a cringe-inducer. like 'broligarchy' or 'trad'. but going off of other social trends like this that probably means it's mega popular and about to be the next over-used phrases across the universe.

I only know "trad" in the climbing sense - what's the new slang meaning?

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by __alexs »

noduerme wrote: post #162
__alexs wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jreg is not a fascist. He is an anti Zionist jew. This is sort of like calling The Producers fascist propaganda.

This is another troll. I'm Jewish, and last I checked claiming to be Jewish does not exempt anyone from being called a fascist. Tacking "anti-Zionist" onto that, I could name a dozen explicitly fascist organizations which are anti-Zionist off the top of my head. So I don't care what identity the person uses to backfill their ideology, it is still a pure fascist troll. And picking such an identity just makes it more o…

Go on then. Name a dozen anti Zionist Jewish run organisations that are explicitly fascist. I'd love to be corrected.

Currently your argument seems to be that satirising fascism is actually fascist. Which tbh also seems like a pretty fascist position to hold so I must be wrong.

Jreg is not "supposedly taking pride in an anti AI position". He is satirising exactly the thing you call our actual fascists for doing. He is lampooning the kind of nonsense real fascists hide behind.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by bloqs »

cschep wrote: post #25
imchillyb wrote: post #23

Seems as it would be easier to slip in some anti-training, and have the AIs screw systems up so badly that there is a 'recall' of all the current models. The LLMs and their corresponding systems crawl the web constantly. So, poison the well. Good data behind paywalls and credentialing and the poison pill open and free. Seems like it'd be worth a try anyway.

Is this the equivalent to the humans nuking the sky to fight the robots in the Matrix? I don't think that worked.

Do you keep a copy of the Matrix running on a second monitor at work to aid with decisionmaking

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by bloqs »

MangoToupe wrote: post #63

I must admit I’m a little unnerved with how gleefully people enjoy using a fake slur. I realize it doesn’t harm anyone but I just don’t get the appeal.

derogatory names are a standard form of human communication. You use them too

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by lepicz »

schrectacular wrote: post #27
toomuchtodo wrote: post #9

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clanker

Lolol THANK YOU. I totally parsed it as these guys and was mystified https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clangers Apparently those guys have a g instead of a k.

that would be very sad christmas :D

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by thrance »

axus wrote: post #19
LetsGetTechnicl wrote: post #11

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I feel like it started as a joke, but now people are just using it as a stand-in for racial slurs against Black and brown people, and it's honestly sickening. Like TikToks of people making classically racist jokes about Black people but changing it to "clanker" as a workaround.

I suppose this is similar to the debate over artificial rape porn. There are no victims, but we don't like the people on the other side so the speech itself becomes a problem.

You're an idiot if you truly think that's the issue with "artificial rape". Go inform yourself instead of reflexively defending your in-group.
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