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CDC officials’ resignation emails

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Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

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wakawaka28 wrote: post #160
toastercat wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, we moved from: * CDC was forcing everyone to get the vaccine to * Biden failed to force everyone to get the vaccine to * The DOD added COVID-19 vaccines to the Joint Regulation on Immunization and Chemoprophylaxis for the Prevention of Infectious (which already included several mandatory vaccines including for influenza) after the FDA had approved the Pfizer vaccine, mandating military personnel to get the vaccin…

You have misrepresented my claims. The CDC and Biden tried to force vaccination. The DOD thing is another, similar issue. The DOD mandate DID get enforced though, and many military personnel left over it or were forced to quit. In the end, I believe they sued and won some compensation as well as got rehired. >Very interesting that once you unpack an anti-vaxxers alarmist arguments, you're left with a completely diffe…

I represented your claims exactly as you presented them. You've moved your original goalposts so much I may as well be replying to a different user.

> I'm not taking bullshit from big pharma or government so that must make me an anti-vax simpleton, eh? Gtfo

Yes, it is quite clear.

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

#162

Post by toastercat »

wakawaka28 wrote: post #159
toastercat wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please share with me the article where Biden attempted but failed to literally break into my house and force a vaccine into my and my children's veins while we were sleeping.

Oh no, he didn't push that. He just tried to command all US employers to require vaccination as a condition of employment. That is severely oppressive. I've seen many cases of people being forced to take the vaccine for stupid reasons, despite known risks, and suffering severe consequences such as organ failure or permanent disability. That is what a mandate does. It eliminates any discretion of the individual. If yo…

Almost everything you said was incorrect.

> Don't give me some bullshit convoluted argument about potentially improved outcomes for people getting the vaccine.

Ah there it is. See, it doesn't matter what numbers or sources I cite to you because it'll all just be bullshit in your eyes. You've already made up your mind and nothing can convince you otherwise.

> I stopped getting boosters (like most normal people) when it became clear that the vaccine wasn't working and the virus had mutated to be more harmless than ever. I never got the virus even once but everyone I know who got double boosted and so on did get it, even multiple times (unless they were skipping work).

This is Facebook uncle-posting tier.

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

#163

Post by wakawaka28 »

toastercat wrote: post #161
wakawaka28 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have misrepresented my claims. The CDC and Biden tried to force vaccination. The DOD thing is another, similar issue. The DOD mandate DID get enforced though, and many military personnel left over it or were forced to quit. In the end, I believe they sued and won some compensation as well as got rehired. >Very interesting that once you unpack an anti-vaxxers alarmist arguments, you're left with a completely diffe…

I represented your claims exactly as you presented them. You've moved your original goalposts so much I may as well be replying to a different user. > I'm not taking bullshit from big pharma or government so that must make me an anti-vax simpleton, eh? Gtfo Yes, it is quite clear.

You DID reply to a different user, and I replied to your reply to him. FFS...

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

#164

Post by wakawaka28 »

toastercat wrote: post #162
wakawaka28 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no, he didn't push that. He just tried to command all US employers to require vaccination as a condition of employment. That is severely oppressive. I've seen many cases of people being forced to take the vaccine for stupid reasons, despite known risks, and suffering severe consequences such as organ failure or permanent disability. That is what a mandate does. It eliminates any discretion of the individual. If yo…

Almost everything you said was incorrect. > Don't give me some bullshit convoluted argument about potentially improved outcomes for people getting the vaccine. Ah there it is. See, it doesn't matter what numbers or sources I cite to you because it'll all just be bullshit in your eyes. You've already made up your mind and nothing can convince you otherwise. > I stopped getting boosters (like most normal people) when i…

>Almost everything you said was incorrect.

It's not at all incorrect. But you are clearly programmed very well. If I prove it to you, you will "yes, but" me to death. No thanks.

>Ah there it is. See, it doesn't matter what numbers or sources I cite to you because it'll all just be bullshit in your eyes. You've already made up your mind and nothing can convince you otherwise.

No, it is not that NO amount of evidence would convince me. It is that the arguments put forth by the mainstream are weak, indirect, and illogical. You seem to know that already, because you aren't even trying. I could be charitable and say this is just a difference of opinion, and maybe the vaccine did help some people. That is still far from a compelling reason to FORCE anyone to get it. Trust me, if COVID was actually bad and the vaccine was actually effective, you'd have been more afraid of other people trying to get the vaccine than you would be of the disease. A lot of people didn't want or need the so-called vaccine because they knew that it didn't work (well enough), and it had risks (in general, or for them), and that being forced to get a vaccine is a major civil rights violation.

>This is Facebook uncle-posting tier.

I think telling you what tier your comments hit would get me banned on here.

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

#165

Post by toastercat »

wakawaka28 wrote: post #163
toastercat wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I represented your claims exactly as you presented them. You've moved your original goalposts so much I may as well be replying to a different user. > I'm not taking bullshit from big pharma or government so that must make me an anti-vax simpleton, eh? Gtfo Yes, it is quite clear.

You DID reply to a different user, and I replied to your reply to him. FFS...

I represented your claims accurately in the first two bullet points in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45071647

The first bullet was from your now-deleted/flagged comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45048014

The second bullet was from your second comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45056521

And then you moved your goalposts further here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45072189

Re: CDC officials’ resignation emails

#166

Post by toastercat »

wakawaka28 wrote: post #164
toastercat wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost everything you said was incorrect. > Don't give me some bullshit convoluted argument about potentially improved outcomes for people getting the vaccine. Ah there it is. See, it doesn't matter what numbers or sources I cite to you because it'll all just be bullshit in your eyes. You've already made up your mind and nothing can convince you otherwise. > I stopped getting boosters (like most normal people) when i…

>Almost everything you said was incorrect. It's not at all incorrect. But you are clearly programmed very well. If I prove it to you, you will "yes, but" me to death. No thanks. >Ah there it is. See, it doesn't matter what numbers or sources I cite to you because it'll all just be bullshit in your eyes. You've already made up your mind and nothing can convince you otherwise. No, it is not that NO amount of evidence w…

> arguments put forth by the mainstream

Who are the mainstream?

Can you give me a reputable source that you think I should trust over the NIH/NCBI/CDC?

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