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Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Aurornis wrote: post #37
rogerrogerr wrote: post #33

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You should be thankful for the AI “accusers”; most of us will just assume you used the slop machine and stop reading whatever you wrote without wasting our breath telling you about it.

> most of us will just assume you used the slop machine and stop reading whatever you wrote From what I've seen, the people who jump to hasty conclusions about AI use mostly do it when they disagree with the content. When the writing matches what they want to see, their AI detector sensitivity goes way down.

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by Dwedit »

milancurcic wrote: post #4

"Recent large-scale upticks in the use of words like “delve” and “intricate” in certain fields, especially education and academic writing, are attributed to the widespread introduction of LLMs with a chat function, like ChatGPT, that overuses those buzzwords." OK, but please don't do what pg did a year or so ago and dismiss anyone who wrote "delve" as AI writing. I've been using "delve" in speech for 15+ years. It's…

Any Magic player during Innistrad would be quite familiar with the word "Delve".

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by fragmede »

viccis wrote: post #151
thomascountz wrote: post #88

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You don't want to believe people use em dashes? Why is that?

Because they overwhelmingly don't

in your software computing ecosystem and of people you've had this discussion, they don't, but the computer magically replaces - with — in various places, so obviously some people do, in some places. And then you have nerds who still put two spaces after a period, or know the difference between ... and … Do they not exist either? The only reason you think that they overwhelmingly don't is due to your biased lived experience.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

I’m old enough to remember Frank and Moon Unit Zappa’s Valley Girl[0].

It reflected local Los Angeles culture, but it wasn’t long before I was hearing the same type of speech, everywhere (I lived in Maryland, at the time).

[0] https://youtu.be/R5Q1yVLSR3I

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by fngjdflmdflg »

Taek wrote: post #55
diego_sandoval wrote: post #10

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Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

Genuine question, do you actually use the formal emdash in your writing? AIs are very consistent about using the proper emdash—a double long dash with no spaces around it, whereas humans almost always tend to use a slang version - a single dash with spaces around it. That's because most keyboards don't have an emdash key, and few people even know how to produce an actual emdash. That's what makes it such a good givea…

I use en dash with two spaces and have done so before AI. But my comments here are from after GPT 4 released, so I guess I can't prove I didn't use AI to write them, although I don't think any AIs use that style. Here is one from February 2024: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39386480. I don't like how "-" looks, it just looks like a minus sign and too short.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by eclipticplane »

Taek wrote: post #55
diego_sandoval wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

Genuine question, do you actually use the formal emdash in your writing? AIs are very consistent about using the proper emdash—a double long dash with no spaces around it, whereas humans almost always tend to use a slang version - a single dash with spaces around it. That's because most keyboards don't have an emdash key, and few people even know how to produce an actual emdash. That's what makes it such a good givea…

I did as well, yes. It was an easy keyboard shortcut on Macs. For many, many years.

No longer. Just like you can no longer bold key phrases, you can no longer use emdashes if your writing being ID'd as "AI" is important (or not).

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by eclipticplane »

wk_end wrote: post #116
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #115

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It’s a per-app setting that sometimes needs to be set in the text field’s context menu. There’s also a few apps that just don’t integrate with the macOS text system.

Well, I see no way to set it in Chrome. A good reason to be a little suspicious of Reddit or HN posts with em-dashes IMO.

It does on Safari (Mac and iOS) by default on Reddit.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by tqi »

This seems like excruciatingly obvious? Anything popular, including books tv shows and movies, also affect "everyday" speech. Where's the moral panic about that?

“My motivation to pursue this research stems from seeing AI push the limits of what’s possible in major industries and realizing that this influence isn’t just limited to tool usage — it can condition societal aspects, including how we use language.” More like the motivation was to find something zeitgeisty that they knew would get them eyeballs and hopefully tenure.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by andy99 »

milancurcic wrote: post #4

"Recent large-scale upticks in the use of words like “delve” and “intricate” in certain fields, especially education and academic writing, are attributed to the widespread introduction of LLMs with a chat function, like ChatGPT, that overuses those buzzwords." OK, but please don't do what pg did a year or so ago and dismiss anyone who wrote "delve" as AI writing. I've been using "delve" in speech for 15+ years. It's…

Orwell wrote about using metaphors (of which delve is one)

  Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
At this point it's irrelevant of you're using AI or not, these words have become cliché and so don't belong in good writing.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by Idodbslb »

guelo wrote: post #87
thomascountz wrote: post #82

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You're making the point that OP never actually uses the em dash, by surveying their HN comments, in order to defend the notion that no one actually used em dashes prior to their proliferation by LLMs? Or do you mean something else?

I wanted to see an em dash in the wild. In these threads there are always people claiming that they use it but in practice it is very rare.

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