VC backing apparently has the power to move the standard from "hodge-podge 800-line commit must have an issue key" to "track every damn interaction and back and forth".
That and the ever-trailing "especially now with AI".
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#162Is IntelliJ "bad"? Aren't the reactions here overly negative? This means the company is funded, development will continue, zed will continue to improve. An IntelliJ style license (for example) is an acceptable trade-off from my point-of-view
IntelliJ has always been extremely slow for me, even on my beefed up mobile workstation for work.
It’s refreshing to see an editor that’s built with performance as a priority.
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I think a lot of people are missing the sarcasm here. that said, I agree that its absolutely horrific. yesterday I saw a video where a girl who couldn't have been more than 9 or 10 years old carrying water was hit by an idf strike. Poor kid was basically rendered into chum. The fact taht this stuff is going on right in front of our eyes and our government is complicit in is horrific.
I have heard of worse. Check out recent podcast with Tony Aguilar or the Theo Von podcast with a doctor. Boys shot in the testicles. Children shot longitudinally (bullet went through head and lodged in the abdomen)- raising concern if they were shot from choppers or drones. The aid distribution sites are basically hunger games- people only go there if they have death wish, and it is run by private military- you know, the infamous ones from Iraq, Afghanistan or Abu Gharib.
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I might HAVE to learn EMacs (prefer over Vim) because I think eventually everything else will be tainted by mandatory AI features and/or subscriptions.
Zed is fully open source. Fork it. The code is pretty nice, too, easy to understand.
VSCode is open source, too, but it's been pretty easy for them to keep forks from taking off by having proprietary extensions, a "markeplace", and other lock-in.
All they have to do is only permit official builds to talk to official builds (for security, of course ;-), and forking Zed becomes a lot harder.
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Well, last year, Nikita Tonsky measured it and it did worse than Sublime: https://mastodon.online/@nikitonsky/112146684329230663 It's funny how often people buy into the marketing and say "blazing fast" without actually questioning it. FWIW, I still prefer Zed because its LSP integration and vim mode are better than Sublime's.
It's commendable to try and challenge Sublime, the undisputed performance champion in GUI text editing, but making false claims is a massive red flag. I know it probably didn't, but I wonder if part of Sequoia's decision to invest had anything to do with these false claims?
I really love Sublime. If it had a solid "remote-ssh" type integration and a more straightforward way to manage plugins/extensions that isn't a rats nest of random directories with similar names - I would return to using it. I purchased every upgrade from like 2012 to 2022 or so.
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#166I love the spirit of Zed. From the principles to the low-level implementation details, it all screams "good taste". It's immensely interesting as an object of study (the code is great, from GPUI all the way up). Having said that, I don't think an editor should be VC backed. It's the obvious pragmatic choice to get a team together to support a thing, but I'm concerned by it.
Same. Especially not having been familiar with who Sequoia is. Altman, Huang, Musk, etc.
What do you mean by that list? They pretty much have every single big tech company in their portfolio.
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Sublime Text solved this 17 years ago with the 40-year-old shareware model. It's also faster than Zed, works on Linux/Win/MacOS, and is decently customizable.
There was a time around ST2 when it felt like everyone was using it and it could've become The Editor, then something happened and it's been left in the dust. I wasn't even aware but apparently even fourth version of ST was released, and that was in 2021. I lost track of what happened there (moved to Vim back then), was it VSCode that killed it?
good question. I think the community fell off and many plugins were left unmaintained. I was using it for over a decade up until recently. ST4 had so many plugin issues and it stopped being worth manually fixing.
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Nothing against emacs, but check out NeoVIM. If you like Emacs, you might like NeoVIM and its powerful extensibility features.
What makes NeoVIM emacs-like?
It's not emacs-like. But a lot of plugins wants to adopt the emacs philosophy of having it open for the duration of your login session. Instead of the quick edit and be done of standard Vim.
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#170Whether this is good or bad for Zed remains to be seen.
I wonder though what the play is here for Sequoia - like all VCs they’re looking for the possibility of a huge return.
I don’t see how “just” an editor (even with paying users) can generate a 10x return. So what is the larger vision here?