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Claude Sonnet 4 now supports 1M tokens of context

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Re: Claude Sonnet 4 now supports 1M tokens of context

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Post by oceanplexian »

verall wrote: post #151
flowerthoughts wrote: post #134

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What type of work do you do? And how do you measure value? Last week I was using Claude Code for web development. This week, I used it to write ESP32 firmware and a Linux kernel driver. Sure, it made mistakes, but the net was still very positive in terms of efficiency.

> This week, I used it to write ESP32 firmware and a Linux kernel driver. I'm not meaning to be negative at all, but was this for a toy/hobby or for a commercial project? I find that LLMs do very well on small greenfield toy/hobby projects but basically fall over when brought into commercial projects that often have bespoke requirements and standards (i.e. has to cross compile on qcc, comply with autosar, in-house bu…

I work in FAANG, have been for over a decade. These tools are creating a huge amount of value, starting with Copilot but now with tools like Claude Code and Cursor. The people doing so don’t have a lot of time to comment about it on HN since we’re busy building things.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4 now supports 1M tokens of context

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Post by k9294 »

jeremy_k wrote: post #145
wiremine wrote: post #130

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> Having spent a couple of weeks on Claude Code recently, I arrived to the conclusion that the net value for me from agentic AI is actually negative. > For me it’s meant a huge increase in productivity, at least 3X. How do we reconcile these two comments? I think that's a core question of the industry right now. My take, as a CTO, is this: we're giving people new tools, and very little training on the techniques that…

Well put. It really does come down to nuance. I find Claude is amazing at writing React / Typescript. I mostly let it do it's own thing and skim the results after. I have it write Storybook components so I can visually confirm things look how I want. If something isn't quite right I'll take a look and if I can spot the problem and fix it myself, I'll do that. If I can't quickly spot it, I'll write up a prompt describ…

For this very reason I switched for TS for backend as well. I'm not a big fun of JS but the productivity gain of having shared types between frontend and backend and the Claude code proficiency with TS is immense.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4 now supports 1M tokens of context

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Post by ffitch »

I wonder how modern models fair on NovelQA and FLenQA (benchmarks that test ability to understand long context beyond needle in a haystack retrieval). The only such test on a reasoning model that I found was done on o3-mini-high (https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.21318), it suggests that reasoning noticeably improves FLenQA performance, but this test only explored context up to 3,000 tokens.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4 now supports 1M tokens of context

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oceanplexian wrote: post #161
verall wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This week, I used it to write ESP32 firmware and a Linux kernel driver. I'm not meaning to be negative at all, but was this for a toy/hobby or for a commercial project? I find that LLMs do very well on small greenfield toy/hobby projects but basically fall over when brought into commercial projects that often have bespoke requirements and standards (i.e. has to cross compile on qcc, comply with autosar, in-house bu…

I work in FAANG, have been for over a decade. These tools are creating a huge amount of value, starting with Copilot but now with tools like Claude Code and Cursor. The people doing so don’t have a lot of time to comment about it on HN since we’re busy building things.

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Re: Claude Sonnet 4 now supports 1M tokens of context

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Post by handfuloflight »

sdesol wrote: post #159
handfuloflight wrote: post #126

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Well you should look at it, because it's not going through all files. I looked at your product and the workflow is essentially asking me to do manually what Claude Code does auto. Granted, manually selecting the context will probably lead to lower costs in any case because Claude Code invokes tool calls like grep to do its search, so I do see merit in your product in that respect.

Looking at the code, it does have some sort of automatic discovery. I also don't know how scalable Claude Code is. I've spent over a decade thinking about code search, so I know what the limitations are for enterprise code. One of the neat tricks that I've developed is, I would load all my backend code for my search component and then I would ask the LLM to trace a query and create a context bundle for only the files…

Excellent, I look forward to trying it out, at minimum to wean off dependency to Claude Code and it's likely current state of overspending on context. I agree with looking at conversations as durable assets.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4 now supports 1M tokens of context

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Post by cube00 »

nzach wrote: post #132
F7F7F7 wrote: post #50

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Inventivatbly the files become a mess of their own. Changes and learnings from one part of the plan often dont result in adaptation to impacted plans down chain. In the end you have a mish mash of half implemented plans and now you’ve lost context too. Which leads to blowing tokens on trying to figure out what’s been implemented, what’s half baked, and what was completely ignored. Any links to anyone who’s built some…

In my experience it works better if you create one plan at a time. Create a prompt, make claude implement it and then you make sure it is working as expected. Only then you ask for something new. I've created an agent to help me create the prompts, it goes something like this: "You are an Expert Software Architect specializing in creating comprehensive, well-researched feature implementation prompts. Your sole purpos…

>You always think deeply before giving an answer...

Nice try but they're not giving you the "think deeper" level just because you asked.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4 now supports 1M tokens of context

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Post by nomel »

oceanplexian wrote: post #161
verall wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This week, I used it to write ESP32 firmware and a Linux kernel driver. I'm not meaning to be negative at all, but was this for a toy/hobby or for a commercial project? I find that LLMs do very well on small greenfield toy/hobby projects but basically fall over when brought into commercial projects that often have bespoke requirements and standards (i.e. has to cross compile on qcc, comply with autosar, in-house bu…

I work in FAANG, have been for over a decade. These tools are creating a huge amount of value, starting with Copilot but now with tools like Claude Code and Cursor. The people doing so don’t have a lot of time to comment about it on HN since we’re busy building things.

What are the AI usage policies like at your org? Where I am, we’re severely limited.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4 now supports 1M tokens of context

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Post by pmxi »

The reason I initially got interested in Claude was because they were the first to offer a 200K token context window. That was massive in 2023. However, they didn't keep up once Gemini offered a 1M token window last year.

I'm glad to see an attempt to return to having a competitive context window.

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