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There's a difference between a factory that is art vs a factory that produces art. There's only one factory, and the concept works only once.
Mass-produced art is still art as long as people frame it as such and all indication suggests that they do.
Eleven Music
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Re: Eleven Music
#162I've played guitar for 23 years, and there is something just off-putting about most of the music on that page, but particularly "Yellow Bus Jam". The guitar solo sounds very unnatural, especially the phrasing, which is totally random. Blues musicians are actually attempting to say something through their instrument. This was just a random number generated solo played by a 6 finger three handed robot. No thanks, lol.
I know right? AI is in the uncanny valley still. But every now and then I stumble upon something made with AI. I have no proof but I'm convinced that the song here is AI made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL1Fg1QnDig I liked it but it still feels like AI to me.
Re: Eleven Music
#163I've played guitar for 23 years, and there is something just off-putting about most of the music on that page, but particularly "Yellow Bus Jam". The guitar solo sounds very unnatural, especially the phrasing, which is totally random. Blues musicians are actually attempting to say something through their instrument. This was just a random number generated solo played by a 6 finger three handed robot. No thanks, lol.
Get used to it, because it's much cheaper than a musician, and to the average person "attempting to say something through their instrument" and "random number generated solo" are largely the same thing.
Re: Eleven Music
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know right? AI is in the uncanny valley still. But every now and then I stumble upon something made with AI. I have no proof but I'm convinced that the song here is AI made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL1Fg1QnDig I liked it but it still feels like AI to me.
I think we're just going to have to get used to it. That is, just drop worrying too much about whether something is AI and just stop at whether you like it or not.
Re: Eleven Music
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just wait until the rush of commenters that insist you’re wrong about being offended that they want to automate and commodify every aspect of your life.
Made this point elsewhere, but the music industry has been on a downward slide towards making music as cheaply as possible for some time now. If you look at Taylor Swift's first 12 number one hits, each of them was written by a different writer. Compare that to bands from 30 years ago, many of whom wrote and recorded all the songs themselves. Labels don't sign rock bands anymore because actually recording a rock band…
Re: Eleven Music
#166Having a machine-learning algorithm crank out generic music seems like peak dystopia to me
Just wait until the rush of commenters that insist you’re wrong about being offended that they want to automate and commodify every aspect of your life.
That is not the issue. The issue is how incredibly generic the music is.
It also doesn't let you combine genres to make really strange sounds like audioLM can do.
This is just another Muzak generator like they use to play at Dennys. As generic music as possible to the appeal to the most average of average listener.
I think you really need to train your own model if you want to explore creative sound design or algorithmic composition. It just isn't going to be a mass market product worth venture capital money.
Re: Eleven Music
#167Did anyone compared to Suno quality wise? Seems like one benefit being the API availability
Re: Eleven Music
#168What it gave me was some horrible ballroom-tango like abomination with prominent tempo, like a paso doble. The typical Ballroom tango sound that gives you ear cancer. I.e. it completely failed (Argentine tango sounds nothing like this).
P.S.: You can't mention any names btw, I asked for D'Arienzo (instead of "golden era") but it refused the prompt on copyright grounds.
It also refused for edad d'oro, with the same reasoning, i.e. it seemed to think this was an artist of some sort ("edad d'oro [de tango]" is just the Spanish name for golden era of tango -- go figure).
And re. copyright: as of 2024, all of Juan D'Arienzo's recordings from the 1940s are in the public domain in Argentina.
Re: Eleven Music
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
Made this point elsewhere, but the music industry has been on a downward slide towards making music as cheaply as possible for some time now. If you look at Taylor Swift's first 12 number one hits, each of them was written by a different writer. Compare that to bands from 30 years ago, many of whom wrote and recorded all the songs themselves. Labels don't sign rock bands anymore because actually recording a rock band…
Who wrote the last 12 Taylor Swift hits?
Re: Eleven Music
#170I've played guitar for 23 years, and there is something just off-putting about most of the music on that page, but particularly "Yellow Bus Jam". The guitar solo sounds very unnatural, especially the phrasing, which is totally random. Blues musicians are actually attempting to say something through their instrument. This was just a random number generated solo played by a 6 finger three handed robot. No thanks, lol.
I know right? AI is in the uncanny valley still. But every now and then I stumble upon something made with AI. I have no proof but I'm convinced that the song here is AI made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL1Fg1QnDig I liked it but it still feels like AI to me.
[1] often being 'modern song lyrics set to a historical style of music'. I don't know how to describe them exactly but they feel 'wrong', in the same way AI text is hard to critique but feels wrong.