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Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by DSingularity »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #84
lupusreal wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Background: UCLA violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, "by acting with deliberate indifference in creating a hostile educational environment for Jewish and Israeli students." Translation: ULCA declined to violate the First Ammendment and allowed their students and faculty to criticize Israel.

It’s more akin to the civil rights movement/counter movement when some universities ignored various assaults on black students (saying it wasn’t their job to police behavior). The protesters were fine to criticize Israel, but then turning the rage to the actual American Jews on campus crossed the line.

Provide evidence from reputable sources.

Israeli Jews kill tens of thousands of Palestinian children and we are supposed to care that Zionists feel targeted by the protests on campus? Zionists are literally starving people right now. Do you not get that?

Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by frob »

mgaunard wrote: post #118
mensetmanusman wrote: post #21

Background: UCLA violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, "by acting with deliberate indifference in creating a hostile educational environment for Jewish and Israeli students." Outcome: These grants are likely in a temporary holding pattern until ucla settles the issue.

why does US law have articles to specifically protect one ethnic group instead of being generic and protecting them all?

Thw law is very obviously being abused here by Trump and his administration to punish unfavored speech and unfavored groups. They dont care about equal protection one bit. They want to punish academics and universities so that Trump et al can controll their speech.

Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by nyeah »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #151
nyeah wrote: post #74

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Do you really think the Trump administration is committed to its pro-Israel position? If they flipped sides, how long would it take for 90% of their voters to adjust and be happy again?

It is perhaps the deepest position on the American right now, and extremely unlikely to shift. To the point that you have people who have politics that derivates from a populist/nativist right wing historical current that was always virulently anti-Semitic, now being the staunchest backers of the current Israeli government. In the post-9/11 era, hatred of Islam, putting an equals-sign between Jewish and Israeli, and…

Nyeah. Maybe. Please don't make me mention an even deeper issue on the US right that is shifting as we speak.

Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by sennalen »

DSingularity wrote: post #150
mensetmanusman wrote: post #21

Background: UCLA violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, "by acting with deliberate indifference in creating a hostile educational environment for Jewish and Israeli students." Outcome: These grants are likely in a temporary holding pattern until ucla settles the issue.

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Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by hackyhacky »

throwaway290 wrote: post #147
Den_VR wrote: post #41

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The root bsky post says “NSF is suspending roughly 300 grants with UCLA, following a DOJ finding on Tuesday that the university violated Title VI by "creating a hostile educational environment for Jewish and Israeli students."” Which is entirely par for the course with the administration and doesn’t seem particularly targeted at Tao. I’m shocked even more NSF grants haven’t been hit, this was a prime DOGE target. The…

> "creating a hostile educational environment for Jewish and Israeli students" Of course suspending grants is probably the wrong way to go about it anyway, but since you brought this up... do you imply that it's false? I'm not in the US but I heard pretty interesting things about what was happening in universities following Oct 7.

Yes, it's false.

Students have a first amendment right to express opinions, even anti-Zionist ones.

The administration is using baseless charges of antisemitism as a cudgel to extract fealty and concessions from universities, which they see as opponents of their party.

Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by hermitcrab »

brnt wrote: post #56
psychoslave wrote: post #49

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When setting repressive measure to mute any opposition and skyrocketing the budget of their personal security agaisnt all raising threats?

Remember, dictators are never wrong. They can only ever double down. It's why they are so destructive.

Brian Klaas wrote an interesting article about that, saying that the biggest weakness of dictators/autocrats is that they surround themselves with 'yes men' and quickly lose touch with reality.

Re: NSF has suspended Terry Tao's grant

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Post by hackyhacky »

jdross wrote: post #137
mgaunard wrote: post #118

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why does US law have articles to specifically protect one ethnic group instead of being generic and protecting them all?

They do. The law is literally that you must equally protect all groups

Correct. However, the current administration is interested in enforcing the law about discrimination only against one group.
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