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U.S. senators introduce new pirate site blocking bill, "Block BEARD"

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The ones that really stick in my craw are the 1984-esque ones like the PATRIOT act.

CAN-SPAM was arguably well named but it unfortunately did not can spam. To me it always read like "oh so we CAN spam people".

Which is an entirely accurate interpretation.

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You can’t find them to rent on iTunes and similar platforms?

Who wants to rent? I have money, give me a file for money. DRM is laughable anyway, if you give me the data I have the file if I really want it. Let me, the consumer, legally purchase a high res copy of media I can own. Why is this so hard?

In most cases, in the world of TVOD (transactional video on demand), an item that is rentable is purchasable, but the reverse is not always true.

That is, the window for purchasing is much longer than the window for renting.

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I've been trying to watch old 80s-90s movies recently. I'm happy to pay $5 or whatever, and they just aren't available anywhere. Rental stores are dead, so I can't go rent them from blockbuster or whatever, and streaming sites have splintered to the point I'm not even sure what is a scam and what is a legitimate business anymore. Trying to even find availability of what films exist on which streaming sites has been a…

This is actually a larger problem that has to do with lost licensing negotiations and residuals. For a place to offer up streaming, they have to know they can license the content.

But oftentimes, that production company is closed shop. They've sold the licenses off to someone else, who split it into something else. And then there's the music rights. The whole thing becomes extremely complicated.

There's a whole set of movies that were somewhat popular that you just cannot find streaming. 100 cigarettes and Woody Allen's Crimes and Misdemeanors are good examples.

I'd say if they can't figure out the rights, just put it on YouTube.

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I watch a decent amount of movies, I can count on one hand the number of times I couldn’t rent it for I think there are plenty of problems with the streaming model, but I think it’s borderline bad faith to try and make the claim that piracy is needed because it’s hard to navigate streaming sites. It’s certainly easier than finding obscure movies was pre-streaming

Even when Amazon Prime has it, the rental terms are dogshit. I used to rent VHS and DVDs from the store and got to watch them as many times as I wanted for a week. With Amazon Prime, once I start watching it I only have 48 hours and then I have to rent it again. Friends coming over in 3 days and you think they'll like the movie you just rented? Too bad, have to pay them again. It's flagrant bullshit that physical med…

You may know this, but these rental terms are typically driven by the studio that published the film, not the TVOD service provider (Amazon in this case).

I know that it doesn't change the customer experience, but it's worth being angry at the right people...

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I see no strong moral argument against ripping DVDs (from the library or similar) of content you paid for on Apple or Amazon.

There's no moral argument against ripping DVDs one way or the other. There's a civil/economic argument: arguably copyright/intellectual property make for stronger societies that produce better stuff for everybody. But there's nothing immoral about copying or watching something you came across. The author isn't injured by it- nobody is. Except, like I said, perhaps society in general.

citation?

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Out of curiosity, what formats do they rent?

Most of the collection is DVD and/or Blu-ray, but he's got some VHS tapes and video games across a few platforms. When he was giving me the spiel about joining he was explicit that he doesn't have any Laserdisc or Betamax, though.

I really love that enough movie nerds came in there and asked about Laserdisc and Betamax that it became part of the spiel.

Re: U.S. senators introduce new pirate site blocking bill, "Block BEARD"

#167

Isn't torrenting way down from its heyday? Streaming companies are not perfect, but I always thought they were at least moderately successful such that in 2025, average, casual, non-techies no longer bother to jump through the VPN and private tracker hoops just to download a movie.

It's down from it's heyday for the mainstream, but for the dedicated few, it's better than ever before. Gone are the days of manually searching for a movie on tracker sites, downloading them, organizing your library and watching stuff on your laptop.

There are now open-source, self-hosted applications that automate that entire process, so it's as simple as requesting a movie on your phone and having it show up on your own personal streaming service on your TV a few minutes later.

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#168

I've been trying to watch old 80s-90s movies recently. I'm happy to pay $5 or whatever, and they just aren't available anywhere. Rental stores are dead, so I can't go rent them from blockbuster or whatever, and streaming sites have splintered to the point I'm not even sure what is a scam and what is a legitimate business anymore. Trying to even find availability of what films exist on which streaming sites has been a…

> I can't go rent them from blockbuster

I can. :) But for those not so lucky, second hand stores have tons of DVDs usually for peanuts. Also your library might lend them out.

I'm still in the process of ripping our collection, but we can watch stuff on TV with Jellyfin.

But to your point, Louis Rossman suggests that when piracy provides the best experience, providers might want to rethink their strategy...

Re: U.S. senators introduce new pirate site blocking bill, "Block BEARD"

#169

I've been trying to watch old 80s-90s movies recently. I'm happy to pay $5 or whatever, and they just aren't available anywhere. Rental stores are dead, so I can't go rent them from blockbuster or whatever, and streaming sites have splintered to the point I'm not even sure what is a scam and what is a legitimate business anymore. Trying to even find availability of what films exist on which streaming sites has been a…

This is actually a larger problem that has to do with lost licensing negotiations and residuals. For a place to offer up streaming, they have to know they can license the content. But oftentimes, that production company is closed shop. They've sold the licenses off to someone else, who split it into something else. And then there's the music rights. The whole thing becomes extremely complicated. There's a whole set o…

The length of time it takes for media to enter the public domain is absolutely absurd. It if didn't take over a century for works to enter the PD, we could say, "Eh, just wait a few years." But instead we hold these works of art captive for no reason, other than a few multi-billion-dollar conglomerates want to keep milking art for money again and again.

If we had a more reasonable period like a decade, it would be a driver for creating new art, and prevent works from being locked away arbitrarily until our great-grandchildren can enjoy them (unless the art was just... lost to time).

Re: U.S. senators introduce new pirate site blocking bill, "Block BEARD"

#170

I've been trying to watch old 80s-90s movies recently. I'm happy to pay $5 or whatever, and they just aren't available anywhere. Rental stores are dead, so I can't go rent them from blockbuster or whatever, and streaming sites have splintered to the point I'm not even sure what is a scam and what is a legitimate business anymore. Trying to even find availability of what films exist on which streaming sites has been a…

Pirates always pull this out as justification. Like they are starving people who are forced to steal bread just to survive. Maybe just because a piece of media has been published in the past, we don't all have some God-given right to access it in perpetuity for a nominal fee. Lost media is not a sin.
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