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Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by slightwinder »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #66

I run a small home lab, about 30 services One day I decided to change my main disk and used the opportunity to rebuild everything from scratch and from backups. I was up in about an hour. And then I spent a week fixing this and that, ah yes I changed that too and, crap, I cannot remember why this thingie is set up this way. And some more. This is a one-man lab, with simple services, all on docker. I also work in IT.…

> Recovering from scratch a whole infrastructure managed by many people over the years is a titanic task.

Half of the work is to know what you need, the other half is to know how you do it, while the third half is to cope with all the undocumented tinkering which happened along the way. So in that regard, starting from scratch can be acceptable, as long you are not starting from zero, and can build up on the knowledge and experience of the previous run(s). I mean, there is a whole gaming-genre about this, which is quite popular. And usually you have the benefit that you might be able to fix some fundamental failures which you had to ignore because nobody wanted to take the risk.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by zulban »

feynmanalgo wrote: post #160
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #66

I run a small home lab, about 30 services One day I decided to change my main disk and used the opportunity to rebuild everything from scratch and from backups. I was up in about an hour. And then I spent a week fixing this and that, ah yes I changed that too and, crap, I cannot remember why this thingie is set up this way. And some more. This is a one-man lab, with simple services, all on docker. I also work in IT.…

> I helped to recover my nearby hospital as a volunteer when it was ransomwared. How did they prevent threat actors presenting themselves as volunteers, were you vetted?

A real person showing up is a huge cost and risk. No threat actor will continue an attack on just a hospital like that. The economics make no sense and any money is already extracted. Ransomware shops are very happy to just shotgun the internet from afar.

A far bigger risk is accepting incompetent volunteers if anything.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by zulban »

littlestymaar wrote: post #85

> The attack destroyed over 47 TB of critical data, I'm very dubious that there would be such an amount of “critical” data pretty much anywhere, besides the banking and insurance sector. And particularly not at a drone manufacturer.

Training data like audio, pictures, and video perhaps.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by andreygrehov »

vardump wrote: post #39
v5v3 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia and all non-usa allies have been the winner. China etc have seen the strategies used in sanctions. They know how to limit their impact now. It's also brought Russia/China/Iran/North Korea and wider Brics together. It's been a disaster for the west. The measure of success was Russia weakened and ideally Putin weakened or gone. And instead Russia have shrugged off the sanctions, and Putin is much stronger. And t…

China has been a big winner, it can now get cheap energy and it gets to set Russia whatever conditions it pleases. Russia is now utterly dependent on China for many imports. Russia itself has been the biggest loser. Massive budget deficits, massive inflation. 1M of its smartest people have moved abroad. 1M Russian casualties in the war. Demographics and economy are disastrous. That and Russia is now a pariah state. N…

> No one is going to invest there for a very long time after what Russia did.

Many large businesses have returned to Russia. "No one is going to invest" is a naive childish thinking. They outperformed growth expectations in 2024, unemployment rate dropped from 5.8% in 2020 to 2.3% in 2025. GDP is surging, insane tech and energy investments from China. Plus Russia has a very low public debt. All in all, their economy is pretty resilient despite what they say in the mainstream media.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by froh »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #66

I run a small home lab, about 30 services One day I decided to change my main disk and used the opportunity to rebuild everything from scratch and from backups. I was up in about an hour. And then I spent a week fixing this and that, ah yes I changed that too and, crap, I cannot remember why this thingie is set up this way. And some more. This is a one-man lab, with simple services, all on docker. I also work in IT.…

side remark: I like the ambiguity of titanic (giant) task and Titanic (1912) task :-)

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by walterlw »

ceejayoz wrote: post #122
praptak wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can help instead of waiting for politicians to "do something about it". It's not that hard to find a reputable organization that helps Ukraine and send it some money.

Unless that’s Musk or Bezos’s alt account, that’s like fighting a forest fire with a squirt gun.

you would be surprised how capable and resilient an army of squirt guns can be.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by Mossy9 »

goopthink wrote: post #143
MrGilbert wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We just recently started using ADRs (Architectural Decision Records). They are deliberately stored (in markdown) in the same repository as the source code for our SaaS business lives. If we can recover the source, chances are high that we can also recover the "why's". If we cannot do that, we are screwed anyways.

This. I encouraged my team to use a templated (standardized) ADR for any big decisions that don’t have an obvious answer or complete consensus and it had reduced the second guessing and relitigation of decisions to nearly zero. It also gave is a good snapshot of where we were when we made that call so historic decisions weren’t disparaged.

Could you share the template you're using?

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by cpursley »

libertine wrote: post #125
taway1a2b3c wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point being made is that Western agencies (5-eyes) would give Ukranian intelligence the button to push (indirect action) and not push it themselves (direct action).

Not really, the point being made goes deeper. The Russian regime (and apparently a lot of Russians) deem Ukrainians as an inferior ethnic group - they call them "little Russians". Ukrainian authorship would mean: - Ukrainians are competent people with agency (which they are of course, for lots of reasons) - this plays into ethnophobia; - their government, military, etc, is competent, functional with agency - this pla…

That’s not the meaning behind “Little Russia”, please considering doing a historical deep dive.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by Mashimo »

littlestymaar wrote: post #85

> The attack destroyed over 47 TB of critical data, I'm very dubious that there would be such an amount of “critical” data pretty much anywhere, besides the banking and insurance sector. And particularly not at a drone manufacturer.

Probably added all raw disk sizes together. Or all the data, including duplicates.
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