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Fakespot shuts down today after 9 years of detecting fake product reviews

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Re: Fakespot shuts down today after 9 years of detecting fake product reviews

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At least for what I buy from aliexpress, it hasn’t been infiltrated by fake reviews. Lots of incomprehensible or useless human ones though. (And bad machine translations by aliexpress…)

> At least for what I buy from aliexpress, it hasn’t been infiltrated by fake reviews. Aliexpress just fake it themselves. Search for anything, sort by the number of orders, open the product page for the first result. Next to the number of sales there's going to be a tooltip saying "Sales and ratings are calculated based on all identical products from the platform." Under reviews there's going to be a message saying…

I’ve never bought from AliExpress, but I’m pretty sure everyone does this. Customers are mostly looking for product reviews, not reviews on sellers. For example, take a mouse from Logitech. Even if five sellers sell the product, it’s better to show product reviews for every item. Isn’t that so?

Re: Fakespot shuts down today after 9 years of detecting fake product reviews

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Amazon are becoming like AliExpress and Temu. They can always do it cheaper, but the quality is touch and go. Now with fake reviews it alot harder to tell what's good quality and what's not.

At least for what I buy from aliexpress, it hasn’t been infiltrated by fake reviews. Lots of incomprehensible or useless human ones though. (And bad machine translations by aliexpress…)

"It's great! Haven't tried it yet, but it looks nice"

(average aliexpress review on many tech items)

Re: Fakespot shuts down today after 9 years of detecting fake product reviews

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Amazon is awful when it comes to striking down accusatory customer reviews. Last year I (like a fool) purchased some chunky thru-hole MOSFETs on Amazon. Lo and behold, despite the datasheets promising a few amps with 3.3V at the gate, I only got a few milliamps. Obviously counterfeit - but no matter how hard I tried or how much indirection I employed, Amazon always took down my review warning others of this verifiabl…

Amazon are becoming like AliExpress and Temu. They can always do it cheaper, but the quality is touch and go. Now with fake reviews it alot harder to tell what's good quality and what's not.

Amazon is great for returns.

Buy $50 something from aliexpress, doesn't work, you can't do anything. Seller wont refund directly, you need to send the item back... to china... and fill out export forms and pay more than $50 for registered mail.

Amazon? Doesn't work? Doesn't matter why, here's the return label, we'll refund you the moment we get the return.

Re: Fakespot shuts down today after 9 years of detecting fake product reviews

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> Mozilla couldn't find a sustainable business model for Fakespot despite its popularity I don't know if it's fair for me to armchair quarterback, but still - what was their business model when they decided to do the acquisition? From the outside looking in barely did anything whatsoever. I browse Amazon using Firefox extremely often and I don't recall seeing any helper UI pop up. Even so, what would have been their…

I don't actually think there was (or needed to be) one...keep in mind they're a non-profit. I think they just wanted to make the internet a safer place, but semi-extraneous (particularly unprofitable) projects sadly need to be cut aggressively with the rising threat of the google antitrust suit, as they may lose most of their income.

Mozilla Corp is a for profit organization owned by a non-profit foundation.

Re: Fakespot shuts down today after 9 years of detecting fake product reviews

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When you have extremely generous return policies then reviews matter less. They are still relevant if your'e trying to optimize for buy once for life, but in that case you should just be going for established brands instead, where their reputation is their review.

They don't build them like they used to, in my experience most consumer electronics/appliance brands that are still considered high quality are just coasting on the reputation they built up in the 70s, 80s and 90s. In many categories it's getting almost impossible to find products that aren't just generic whitelabeled junk resold by "established brands".

Very true. Two other things are happening.

1. The whitelabeled junk is getting very good. In some categories, the brand name stuff has degraded to the point that the aliexpress version is better and cheaper.

2. The IoTification of everything means that a lot of traditionally long lasting items are as durable as their WiFi board - i.e. not very. This also plays into number (1) - where cheap, Chinese, items either lack IoT features or provide them only locally instead of requiring an online account.

Re: Fakespot shuts down today after 9 years of detecting fake product reviews

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> You've got stores that would include a $5-$20 coupon/gift card in the item in exchange for a positive review. It doesnt even need to be that complicated. I worked reputation management for an ecommerce place for a while a few years back. I literally asked very politely against a random sampling of all orders if they would consider leaving us a review, and significantly more actually did than I would ever have expec…

> I literally asked very politely against a random sampling of all orders if they would consider leaving us a review Uh, this is how it's supposed to work? Make a good product, get good reviews for free. "Make a crappy / mediocre product and pay people to write good reviews" is completely different.

Good product? Oh lord no. I just got to people before they could figure out it was bad.

Note: I did not last long in this business before hitting the eject button.

Re: Fakespot shuts down today after 9 years of detecting fake product reviews

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Some company paid be 100 bucks to change my review to be positive so they sent the money via PayPal no problem then I changed the review to say they paid me to write a glowing review and of course Amazon ended up removing the review for being harmful to their customers

Some company said they know where I live and they will pay me a visit if I don't remove the bad review (product was dangerous). That was on Amazon.

Do they know where we live? Aren't orders fulfilled by Amazon?

Re: Fakespot shuts down today after 9 years of detecting fake product reviews

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I did search around looking for alternatives and the landscape isn't great. There's ReviewMeta.com which doesn't work 100% of the time and is no longer actively maintained as far as I can tell. TheReviewIndex.com I didn't find to be very helpful, as it doesn't index all products and sometimes just refuses to check on listings you ask it to. It seems to have some kind of subscription model, but they don't list the pri…

I’ve basically settled on only buying major brands that I already know from Amazon unless it’s something that I’m okay throwing away if it doesn’t work out. I then judge by my assessment of the bad reviews.

IMHO judging these random Chinese products with the nonsense capital letter brands by actual reviews is a lost cause.

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