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Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by acdha »

lmm wrote: post #133
duxup wrote: post #4

The whole story of telling ICE agents to just go out and find people on their own seems like a setup to empower the executive branch to have their own group of thugs. Without guidance they do what want outside the judicial system and sensible oversight / rules. This seems to be a pattern in most non democratic countries...

Most democratic countries don't have decades of regular law enforcement refusing to enforce democratically agreed immigration law, which is what has made this defensible.

You appear to be arguing that law enforcement focusing on dangers to their communities and not doing someone else’s job instead is bad. It’s exactly hard to find examples of cops who investigated real crimes and pulled ICE in when they realized the perp wasn’t here legally.

Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by JKCalhoun »

zefalt wrote: post #153

I feel like hackernews has been getting astroturfed by the same people that ruined reddit. Over the past few months, there have been increasingly one sided political stories and comments. It's a shame.

I feel instead that we are living in "interesting times".

Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by bufferoverflow »

chneu wrote: post #150
bufferoverflow wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Immigrants commit less crime than citizens Immigrants actually contribute to GDP because they often work but don't pay taxes. Your food is affordable because of that cheap labor, which farmers are now having trouble finding. Quit repeating tired racist rhetoric.

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Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by Tadpole9181 »

timr wrote: post #147
sillyfluke wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Because it's HN not /r/politics Poltical stories that show "evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" are not against the guidelines. A few years back someone said nearly half the YC batch was non-US. I think stories about city comptrollers and mayoral candidates getting arrested at immigration court would have some bearing on whether someone would want to base a company in the US. A user who has enough karma to…

> Poltical stories that show "evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" are not against the guidelines. Call me evil and obtuse, but this is neither interesting, nor new. The only thing new here is that (it seems) a huge swath of people are learning how the law works for the first time. Brad Lander had nothing to do with the situation . He's a politician, and he was there "observing". It's the equivalent if I walk…

The ununiformed, masked men that refuse to identify themselves and won't show any legal documents have unilateral authority and cannot be questioned. Do not resist.

You will not receive a trial. You will be sent to a black site. Your family or lawyer will not be informed.

America: home of the free.

Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by fzeroracer »

stingrae wrote: post #22

It is insane that federal agents are allowed to roam around in masks, without ID and just arrest people.

The speed with which other Americans went from 'we need guns to protect ourselves from the feds trampling over our rights' to 'federal agents bagging someone with zero identification or justification is OK actually' really does go to show how much of that was bluster. It's obvious to me that if federal agents weren't concerned with backlash for obviously illegal actions they would properly present themselves.

Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by morkalork »

detourdog wrote: post #151
morkalork wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hah, it's like a meme came to life! https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/06/17/third-pound-burger-fr...

I combed that story over and couldn't find out if it was true. Did it fail because 4 is biffer than 3?

Huh, yeah the article just kind of... ends. Strange. The fiasco has a wiki article so make of that what you will:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-pound_burger

>This misunderstanding stemmed from consumers focusing on the numbers "3" and "4," leading them to conclude that one-third (1/3) was smaller than one-fourth (1/4), even though the opposite is true

I wonder if there's a correlation between those consumers and Trump voters?

Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by thaumasiotes »

edoceo wrote: post #119
edm0nd wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

technically he shot 4 elected representatives. 2 died 2 are in hospital still iirc.

Nit: 2 officials, 2 spouses.

You don't think Jill Biden was the duly elected First Lady?

Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by JKCalhoun »

haunter wrote: post #75
28304283409234 wrote: post #60

I do not understand why this is flagged.

Because it's HN not /r/politics A lot of us doesn't come here to read about US internal politics

I don't come here for articles about Rust, but what can I do? I guess not click on the thread....

But seriously, I come to HN for the variety of topics (though often technical) that so often surprise me.

Re: Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

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Post by timr »

Tadpole9181 wrote: post #164
timr wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Poltical stories that show "evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" are not against the guidelines. Call me evil and obtuse, but this is neither interesting, nor new. The only thing new here is that (it seems) a huge swath of people are learning how the law works for the first time. Brad Lander had nothing to do with the situation . He's a politician, and he was there "observing". It's the equivalent if I walk…

The ununiformed, masked men that refuse to identify themselves and won't show any legal documents have unilateral authority and cannot be questioned. Do not resist. You will not receive a trial. You will be sent to a black site. Your family or lawyer will not be informed. America: home of the free.

> The ununiformed, masked men that refuse to identify themselves and won't show any legal documents have unilateral authority and cannot be questioned. Do not resist.

Again, Brad Lander was not being detained. He had nothing to do with anything. That's not "resistance", it's just interference.

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