So that's what that big blob in the Mandelbrot set is. It's a diagram of our fractal universe.
Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole
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#162If this is true it almost literally means black holes are a way for universes to make children. If we apply Darwin’s principles of the strongest survive this must mean that universes that produce the most black holes are the “best”. If correct, what does this actually mean?
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#163Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not a new idea, although I don't think it would be accurate to describe the other universes as "contained" within the black hole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole#Big_Bang/Supermassi...
Black hole to White hole to Black hole It’s holes all the way down
That's a wholly a whole lot of holes.
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#165> The Big Bang is often described as the explosive birth of the universe – a singular moment when space, time and matter sprang into existence. It is indeed "often described" in the media as such. However, that is _not_ the currently accepted theory. "What if there were no space and time before the Big Bang" is just Stephen Hawking's pet theory.
Seems inevitable that we'll discover we aren't the only universe / only cycle.
We went from thinking the Earth was the center of the universe, to the sun being the center of the universe, and the next obvious step is our universe isn't at the center of universes.
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#166I'm not a scientist or astrophysicist but i do believe in science, is it ok to believe that we as humans and all our scientific development still very very far from proving anything remotely close to how the universe got created? I feel this subject is for humanity in year 2600 to start discussing it. Scientist still can show their theories and search papers and i can't understand a shit but i don't believe in any th…
If we can't even predict inflation rates maybe we should hold off on explaining the birth of the entire universe, yeah?
Predicting inflation rates may be harder than discovering the birth of the universe actually, because it would require perfect knowledge of the present and by the time you compute it it's out of date.
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#167Suggested hard sci-fi light reading: "Cosm" by Gregory Benford, 1999. A universe the size of a bowling ball created in a laboratory. The scientist responsible for it, keeping it safe and on the run from gvt spooks. They want to protect it for as long as it lasts, and since its time is as relative as its size, they won't have long to wait.
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A) I love all the scifi book recommendations that cone up on HN
B) i wish you’d all stop recommending great and amazing books. My queue is so backlogged and jammed I'm never going to catch up.
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#168Not many people these days like to hear this (I myself was one of them), but the answer to this is in Genesis. There's a reason some of the most famous mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and philosophers of all time believe(d) in God. The Hebrew name of God, YHWH, literally means "He Who Is." In other words, the Self-Existent One. The father and originator of all things that were, are, and will be, who exists out…
Yes, not many people these days like to hear senseless drivel, hence the failing churches.
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#169I'm not a scientist or astrophysicist but i do believe in science, is it ok to believe that we as humans and all our scientific development still very very far from proving anything remotely close to how the universe got created? I feel this subject is for humanity in year 2600 to start discussing it. Scientist still can show their theories and search papers and i can't understand a shit but i don't believe in any th…
I have immense respect for astrophysicists, but the data we're dealing with is extremely far away and relies on a lot of interlocking assumptions.
I stumbled upon this paper [1, 2] last night that challenges the CMB, and thus the underpinning of much of our understanding about the age and evolution of the universe. As a layperson, I don't know the impact factor of the "Nuclear Physics B" journal - if this is just junk or if this is a claim that will pan out.
My point is that it feels like we're building on a lot of observations that are all super indirect. I know I'm just a layperson, but that feels weird when reading assertions about these things.
Our understanding of the universe is relatively new. We don't have a lot of energy or resolution in our observations. The fact that we can sniff the molecular spectra of exoplanets is so amazing and that part feels totally concrete and rock-solid. But I get skeptical when I see claims that we know how the universe began or how it will end. Is our evidence that good? Are our models? Are we basing everything on assumptions?
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
"beginning" is a misnomer, since time itself started with the Big Bang. There is no such thing as "before" the singularity, as time and space were curved together.
Time is a map of the states of consciousness, I believe consciousness/awareness of the universe has no beginning just infinite layers of abstraction.
I'm happy you feel that way