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Post by cess11 »

ai_assisted_dev wrote: post #116

I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. I spend so much time inside cursor, that I am spending 10-20$ per day on additional requests. Now if I connect model provider APIs to windsurf, I'd be spending upwards of 100$ due to amount of tokens I use through the API per day. And if I connect my own API key to Cursor, I immediately get rate limited for any request, because I go well above 50 per min…

"Lines of Agent Edits: 301k"

What does this measurement mean?

1049 / (4 * 8) ~= 32 seconds, on average. Doesn't look like much waiting to me.

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Post by echelon »

JimDabell wrote: post #123
ai_assisted_dev wrote: post #116

I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. I spend so much time inside cursor, that I am spending 10-20$ per day on additional requests. Now if I connect model provider APIs to windsurf, I'd be spending upwards of 100$ due to amount of tokens I use through the API per day. And if I connect my own API key to Cursor, I immediately get rate limited for any request, because I go well above 50 per min…

The market for AI-assisted development is exploding and token costs are plummeting all the time. It makes sense for them to subsidise usage to capture market share in the short-term with the expectation that servicing their users will cost them less in the future.

> It makes sense for them to subsidise usage to capture market share in the short-term with the expectation that servicing their users will cost them less in the future.

Switching costs are zero and software folks are keen to try new things.

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Post by brabel »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #122
BudaDude wrote: post #13

I love Cursor, but it feels like a ticking time bomb with extensions not being updated at the same rate as VSCode. Also another issue I am starting to see is the lack of shared MCP servers. If I have VSCode, Cursor, and Claude open, each one is running its own instance of the MCP server. You can imagine that with a dozen or so MCP's, the memory footprint becomes quite large for no reason.

I just run two IDEs. Cursor is essentially only the wrapper for running agents. I still do my heavy lifting in Jetbrains products. It actually works out well because I can let Cursor iterate on a task while I review/tweak code.

Have you tried the Jetbrains agent, I think it’s called Jennie? I am trying it right now and it seems decent enough but I haven’t tried Cursor as I don’t really like vs code.

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Post by sgt »

delbronski wrote: post #163

Anyone tried Junie from JetBrains? Im super happy with it. I’m not sure how it compares to other coding agents though.

What's Junie? I am currently trialing the AI assistant in IntelliJ but I didn't see that name anywhere.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by JimDabell »

aitchnyu wrote: post #152
JimDabell wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The market for AI-assisted development is exploding and token costs are plummeting all the time. It makes sense for them to subsidise usage to capture market share in the short-term with the expectation that servicing their users will cost them less in the future.

I use Aider with Openrouter and I keep wondering about the pricing of LLMs after providers decide to be profitable. Can we still afford a model which knows Python, Java and how to disrupt snail biology without poisoning mammals?

Yes. It’s already profitable to run inference at today’s prices. AWS isn’t subsidising you when you buy compute from them. And inference cost is declining steeply.

> The cost of LLM inference has dropped by a factor of 1,000 in 3 years.

— https://a16z.com/llmflation-llm-inference-cost/

AI startups are not profitable because they are throwing vast sums of money at growth and R&D, not because inference is unaffordable.

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Post by wg0 »

ai_assisted_dev wrote: post #157
wg0 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious what's your usage. How much different it is from Claude based Copilot. Both are genuine questions.

Do you mean Claude Code? Or something else? As for usage, do you mean the product I am working on? Happy to answer.

I meant you're using Cursor (I assume Claud as the model) and also wondering that you go over monthly usages and then what product/project is that where you find it so useful that you have such a usage.

I have used or rather use Claud with CoPilot and I find it pretty useful but at times it gets stuck in niche areas.

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Post by BozeWolf »

delbronski wrote: post #163

Anyone tried Junie from JetBrains? Im super happy with it. I’m not sure how it compares to other coding agents though.

I tried it, it did some magical stuff, like completely rewriting my go test suite from matrix based tests to individual tests. Took a few minutes. Code was mostly correct.

Also had a few misses. But in general it is ok. Still prefer ai assistant, because i can then direct the result into a certain direction. It also feels faster, it probably is not because of the manual stuff involved.

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Post by sunaookami »

deadbabe wrote: post #96
esafak wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't give people ideas.

Other professions pay a lot for their tools, and developers are loaded with cash.

>developers are loaded with cash

Maybe in the US? I will never pay 100$ for a subscription and I despise that people normalized it by even buying this stuff instead of saying "no, that's way too expensive".

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by karthink »

fhd2 wrote: post #140
nextos wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found Emacs plus gptel very pleasant to use. And following the ethos of Emacs, it is backend agnostic and very malleable. Besides, if you want something inexpensive, using Gemini 2.0 Flash as a backend is completely free. Google provides an API key at no cost.

Ha, same. How do you use it? I tried all the fancy context management stuff multiple times, but I mostly just have a chat buffer open and copy paste stuff manually. Text wrangling is so damn efficient in Emacs. I pay around 10$ to Anthropic per month in API tokens for pretty heavy usage. With deliberate context management (I found keeping it small and focused vastly improves responses), cost is really not an issue. D…

> tried all the fancy context management stuff multiple times, but I mostly just have a chat buffer open and copy paste stuff manually.

As of last week you can insert a link to a plain-text file in a chat buffer to include its contents in the prompt. It must be on a line by itself. In Markdown it looks

[like this](/path/to/file)

with Org links in Org chat buffers.

This feature is disabled by default to minimize confusion. To enable it you can flip the header line button that says "ignoring media" to "sending media". This works for sending images and other media too, if the model supports it.

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