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Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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For what it's worth, shooting at aircraft (including drones) is a federal offense, and the FAA takes that one pretty seriously. Drones also have cameras.

Are rocks still kosher?

Fireworks seem like a reasonable compromise.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Most people seriously looking to shoot down a drone would be using a shotgun and bird shot, so that's essentially a non-issue.

Shotguns are only good for about 100 feet, most delivery drones transit higher than that.

I'd think people would get progressively more interested in shooting them the lower they're flying anyway

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Has a very easy answer in the US: No. You do not own your airspace. The FAA owns your airspace. You can build a tall structure (subject to local laws). But anything above that is outside your control. --- This article, however, is about Ireland.

Not quite. The height of a structure, antenna, tower, etc., can be limited by the FAA based upon the distance of the structure from a nearby airport. Beyond a certain distance, the height is no longer an FAA issue.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Most localities have laws against invading someone’s privacy. There don’t need to be special laws for every specific type of surveillance.

I think more legal clarifications are needed here. If someone comes into your property to mount a trail cam or spy device, I believe you're allowed to remove it (even in a destructive manner). Not sure why the FAA insists a spy device that happens to hover a couple feet above is entitled to more protections...

Because projectiles don't stop at any particular distance and can reach vehicles with humans which are flying over other humans, all of which were innocent of any spying, and most people are complete shit at judging size and distance when looking at objects in the air. (lots of great examples of this with the mystery drones in nj a while back)

I would like to shoot them down too but then I became 12 and a half years old instead of just 12.

As a policy that has to just apply across the board by default, of course the rule has to simply be be that you can not shoot at things in the air. I have no idea how bird hunting is handled but I bet it simply fails a logic test and shouldn't be allowed for the exact same reasons.

Now a tazer or a net or harpoon, all with physically limited tethers... Well there can be no safety argument about whacking something with a baseball bat, and anything with a tether that isn't rocket powered with 1000 feet of range is basically as safe for legit aircraft as a kid with a bat. IE it doesn't matter how inept the yahoo is, their capacity for harm to others is limited to a few people physically very near them, which is the same danger evrryone is to everyone else all the time.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Well,not my country, but I think it is quite a silly and too general rule: What if 10 neighbors collude and start flying drones over my garden and house, only a few meters above ground or my roof, 24/7? What if one of their drones crashes without my doing and hurts _me_? So the actual rules need to be more nuanced than this, to prevent people doing crazy shit with their tech gadgets hurting others. They cannot be giv…

> What if 10 neighbors collude and start flying drones over my garden and house, only a few meters above ground or my roof, 24/7? What if one of their drones crashes without my doing and hurts _me_? Are you under the impression that either of these things is legal, and that gunplay is your only recourse?

> gunplay is your only recourse?

Having tried to get the authorities to deal with a harassing neighbour even in a big city, that sounds extremely plausible.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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It's often not legal for drones to fly too close to the ground too though (e.g., <200ft). Details are decided largely through case law.

Again this is specific to the US, but there is no law that specifies a minimum altitude for drones as long as it is not touching the ground.

Does CFR § 91.119 not apply?

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-F...

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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I guess it could be to film your house and garden for advertising tracking purposes. If you’ve got a new car or your kids are wearing new clothes could be important data points. Sadly, I’m only half joking. Whatever you can think of some fucker will be willing to try.

My municipality (US) does this for property tax purposes already, using commercial datasets. Stands to reason that this is next.

Add homeowners insurance companies as well.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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It's often not legal for drones to fly too close to the ground too though (e.g., <200ft). Details are decided largely through case law.

Again this is specific to the US, but there is no law that specifies a minimum altitude for drones as long as it is not touching the ground.

It's currently quite popular for various drone resources to claim that, but it's blatantly false as a general statement. Federally there are fuzzy (court-interpreted) altitude restrictions basically any place where a person might be concerned about a drone. Many states, counties, and cities have similar policies, often with better wording, either explicitly or implicitly (e.g., via avoiding people and structures) giving an altitude limit. All that aside, the fact that many of the issues fall back to property ownership gives a wealth of common law on the topic, and that law is not in favor of the drone performing low-altitude passes over private property unless it's particularly unobtrusive (and often not even then).

Yes, there isn't a blanket minimum in the US for drones. The issue is murkier than you're stating though, and it usually falls much closer to the side of "drones can't do anything to upset property owners" than to the side of "drones can hover a foot off your lawn and can't be touched." Here's a smattering of examples, but there are thousands of other such laws or cases if you want to give your favorite intern something interesting to study.

- There are safety considerations prohibiting most delivery drones from, e.g., flying too close to a backyard barbeque [0]

- There is case law regarding the ability to use the airspace immediately above your property [1]

- There's more case law to that effect, interpreting the drone's actions as trespass [2]

- When interpreted as trespass, often there would still be no consequences (since you've only suffered negligible harm), but states frequently have privacy laws [3] giving the matter more teeth, and in that case explicitly calling out aircraft.

- Other states have such laws too, with Florida's applying to individuals but focusing on government overreach [4].

[0] https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/section-107.39

[1] https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/328/256/

[2] https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/kentuck...

[3] https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

[4] https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2023/934.50

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