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Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Re: Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Post by Aeolun »

tw04 wrote: post #123
Aurornis wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All these are due to laws and regulations that are there to protect the big companies and don’t take into consideration users This feature is not due to laws and regulations. The user in this case is the presenter who clicks the button to enable screenshot protection on their meeting. This is Microsoft trying to deliver a feature their users want , not laws and regulations making them do something their users don’t…

But it’s literally the dumbest feature ever. There’s absolutely nothing preventing a user from pulling out their phone and taking a picture of any slide they want. Or having a camera recording the whole session out of view of their webcam. It is security theater at its peak.

That’s because what the users want isn’t actually being secure. They want to be able to say they did everything in their power to stop people from capturing sensitive info.

It’s all about diffusing that responsibility.

Re: Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Post by Aeolun »

lolinder wrote: post #151
fifticon wrote: post #12

Interesting how this will stop me from taking a picture with my mobile phone. The amount of effort people will go to, to make people's work more cumbersome. I am not screenshotting for espionage, I am screenshotting to accomplish my job.

> I am not screenshotting for espionage, I am screenshotting to accomplish my job. This is literally the threat model that this feature is protecting against: it gives presenters a way to say "no really, when I say don't record I mean don't record". If people end up overusing it at your company, that's a problem to address with them, but I can totally imagine use cases where you would want to turn this on just as an…

No, no, what they’re doing is making it harder for me to work around their (inevitably misplaced) expectations of confidentiality. This is one of those things that will be misused to hell and back so we’re better off not having the feature at all. It’s existence is a net negative to corporate employees everywhere.

Re: Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Post by Noumenon72 »

flufluflufluffy wrote: post #104

I get that it’s basically impossible to enforce but who are all these people that screencap stuff from Teams meetings? Why do you need to do that? Can you not get the actual material you’re capping via somebody emailing/sharing the actual file? If not, why? Are you not allowed to access it? Or are you all just taking candids of your coworkers for your own devious purposes?

I rigged up a Mac Shortcut with the Extract Text from Screenshot feature so if I see someone visit a URL or display an error message, I can copy the text from the shared screen instead of asking them to paste it into the chat.

Re: Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Post by stevage »

tw04 wrote: post #123
Aurornis wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All these are due to laws and regulations that are there to protect the big companies and don’t take into consideration users This feature is not due to laws and regulations. The user in this case is the presenter who clicks the button to enable screenshot protection on their meeting. This is Microsoft trying to deliver a feature their users want , not laws and regulations making them do something their users don’t…

But it’s literally the dumbest feature ever. There’s absolutely nothing preventing a user from pulling out their phone and taking a picture of any slide they want. Or having a camera recording the whole session out of view of their webcam. It is security theater at its peak.

Nah, this would stop a lot of threats.

I'm an example of that threat. I'm a freelancer who often has video calls with new clients. Sometimes I surreptitiously screen cap demos or presentations. It would be very difficult to use a phone that way without breaking the conversational flow.

Other supposed workarounds would require much more preplanning. Like I'd need to know that there was something worth capturing.

Re: Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Post by stevage »

Aeolun wrote: post #161
tw04 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it’s literally the dumbest feature ever. There’s absolutely nothing preventing a user from pulling out their phone and taking a picture of any slide they want. Or having a camera recording the whole session out of view of their webcam. It is security theater at its peak.

That’s because what the users want isn’t actually being secure. They want to be able to say they did everything in their power to stop people from capturing sensitive info. It’s all about diffusing that responsibility.

It reduces the risk, it doesn't completely eliminate it, and that's fine. Not everything was to be 100%.

Re: Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Post by lolinder »

Frost1x wrote: post #74
Aurornis wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not literally every Teams meeting. It’s an option the presenter can turn on when needed. If you need the data from the presenter to do your job, presumably you’d contact them and ask.

I don’t know about you but sometimes it’s some small piece of information that isn’t worth contacting the presenter about. I need to call or craft an email, be polite and come up with some nonsense greeting maybe for a bullet point or two or a string I don’t want to rapidly shift focus to duplicate by hand. Then I have to sit around and wait for a response where they have to do the same, and I’m definitely not their…

> I need to call or craft an email, be polite and come up with some nonsense greeting maybe for a bullet point or two or a string I don’t want to rapidly shift focus to duplicate by hand. Then I have to sit around and wait for a response where they have to do the same, and I’m definitely not their priority.

This is not a problem with this feature, this is a problem with your office's expectations surrounding communication.

At my workplace this exchange looks like a slack message along these lines:

> Hey, can I get a copy of the info from side 10? I'll use it for $X.

Re: Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Post by WillieCubed »

NKosmatos wrote: post #78

LOL Another stupid feature (enforced by regulations/law/policies) that has no real world use, besides making us users angry :-( Like Google collecting all of our location history for their own usage, but not allowing us to see it via web anymore (only on mobiles), or having the android dialer not allowing us to record our own phone conversation (easily circumvented), or movie/music/game publishers not allowing us to…

AFAIK, Google stopped making Timeline accessible on the web in favor of local-first storage to avoid having to give location data when subpoenaed by law enforcement (since they can't give away data they literally don't have access to). And they didn't want to deal with the headache of user privacy-related lawsuits, so they defaulted Google accounts into auto-deleting location history (which was already opt-in for years).

Re: Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Post by realitysballs »

stevage wrote: post #164
tw04 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it’s literally the dumbest feature ever. There’s absolutely nothing preventing a user from pulling out their phone and taking a picture of any slide they want. Or having a camera recording the whole session out of view of their webcam. It is security theater at its peak.

Nah, this would stop a lot of threats. I'm an example of that threat. I'm a freelancer who often has video calls with new clients. Sometimes I surreptitiously screen cap demos or presentations. It would be very difficult to use a phone that way without breaking the conversational flow. Other supposed workarounds would require much more preplanning. Like I'd need to know that there was something worth capturing.

RDP into computer that has meeting running and then screenshot from the external computer running RDP .

Re: Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings

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Post by pests »

johnnyo wrote: post #80
chevman wrote: post #69

Most folks know this is easily defeated typically by viewing the content on another device (eg via casting it, remote desktop, phone mirroring, etc) or viewing it from within a VM, and then using the native screen capture functionality on the viewing device to record/screenshot whatever you need. That being said - guessing they are doing this for their enterprise customers mainly, where alot of those other options ar…

> This feature will be available on Teams desktop applications (both Windows and Mac) and Teams mobile applications (both iOS and Android)." Seems like it’s even easier, just join the meeting via browser. I’m not familiar with a way to enforce this type of restriction in the browser.

Same way Netflix does I’m sure.
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