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Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by chii »

tkgally wrote: post #153
podunkPDX wrote: post #126

A few years back I discovered that the Ethiopian run minimart up the street sells unroasted coffee beans, $6/lb. I bought a pound and followed the proprietor’s advice, roasting small quantities in a cast iron pan on medium high and agitating/stirring until it looked right. This was too labor intensive to be sustainable (40m for about 100g), but the end result was breathtaking. Immediately bought a roaster from Sweet…

I started roasting my own coffee a few months ago. I use a light pan with a screen cover I found online and roast the beans by shaking the pan over a high flame for seven or eight minutes. I judge the degree of the roast from the sound, the smoke, and the smell. It took a few batches before I got the hang of it, but now it works great. Home coffee roasting is, as one might expect, a deep rabbit hole that one can spen…

> But if you're only roasting for yourself, a simple setup like mine should be fine.

i wonder how consistent it is to do it over a pan with hands...

I personally have a roasting attachment in my air-fryer, which is a rotating drum. And the air fryer has temperature setting, which can be used to correctly tune to roast your beans!

But i just buy mine from a good local roaster...their skill is worth paying for since i find my own roasting to be uneven and inconsistent.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by el_oni »

rectang wrote: post #62
nkrisc wrote: post #7

1. Good beans. Something not roasted to a charred crisp (looking at you, Starbucks). Eat a coffee bean by itself. If it tastes bad on its own, it’ll probably taste bad in the brew too. I enjoy munching a few beans while I make my coffee. 1.5 Buy your beans whole and grind them. It really makes a difference. 2. Clean water. If your water tastes bad, so will the coffee. I just use filtered water from the fridge. 3. No…

> Something not roasted to a charred crisp (looking at you, Starbucks). Not everyone is going to like less-roasted beans. Less roasted beans have strong, distinct flavors which might be characterized as "green" or "floral" or "woodsy", and it's true that a lot of the individuality of the bean varieties is obscured by darker roasts. But I for one usually prefer the standard roasts of the mainstream vendors over the li…

There is a difference between dark roasts from a specialty coffee roaster and a dark roast from Starbucks.

The specialty dark roast will have notes of cookies, chocolate, nuts. Lots of brown roasty flavour.

Starbucks tastes bitter. With very little nuance. (Unless you cold brew it, then you can leave most of the bitter behind)

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by chii »

elteto wrote: post #89
kaishiro wrote: post #45

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It’s funny you mention that. I moved to Melbourne AU a while back and quickly realized how bad the coffee I had been drinking my whole life had been. I honestly had trouble finding a bad cup of coffee there - although as it’s primarily an espresso based coffee culture it’s admittedly quite a different animal. I dove in pretty deep over the years, finally ending up with a Silvia/Mazzer setup, but oddly enough would so…

There’s something especial about crappy diner/gas station coffee. I can’t enjoy American diner breakfast (eggs, bacon, toast) without crappy drip coffee. It’s essential. McDonalds has surprisingly “good” coffee in this regard.

you need to coffee acid to dissolve the diner food fats!

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by peterlada »

browningstreet wrote: post #130
rectang wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Something not roasted to a charred crisp (looking at you, Starbucks). Not everyone is going to like less-roasted beans. Less roasted beans have strong, distinct flavors which might be characterized as "green" or "floral" or "woodsy", and it's true that a lot of the individuality of the bean varieties is obscured by darker roasts. But I for one usually prefer the standard roasts of the mainstream vendors over the li…

Third wave coffee roasters, like Revolution or Counter Culture, always taste distinctly sour. I can't drink those at all. I personally prefer medium to dark roasts.. even when I'm drinking them black. I wish I could find the word that describes the lighter roast taste that I don't like (to me, it's the IPA of coffee) because I have yet to be able to walk into a coffee roaster and ask them, "Is your coffee ?" so I kno…

Ask for medium roast, not light. You might like dark roasts, especially if you drink with milk or fakemilk.

There are two kind of "sourness" in coffee, one is of acidity, which is a (for some highly desirable) feature of the beans, which can be toned down with darker roasting levels. The other is astringency (tea-like) which is a sign of extraction defect and generally not liked by all. This can be controlled with grind settings.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by chii »

jfengel wrote: post #25

I find that a substantial fraction of people who drink coffee don't like coffee. They combine it with milk and syrup and whipped cream, and it's really more of a hot milkshake. No shade intended. Drink what you like. But I suspect a lot of people would prefer a steamer (same thing minus the coffee).

the slight bitterness from coffee mixes well with sugar to create a more complex flavour than just pure sugar alone.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by jeffhuys »

senectus1 wrote: post #54

I love coffee, black and without sugar. but something in my stomach decided over the last 10 years that i can no longer drink it. if I do I get IBS like issues :-( I used to be able to drink it 4-6 time a day no problems. I'd happily drink one before bed and sleep like a log. It didnt keep me awake it made me want to ignore that that it was time for bed. getting older sucks. much of what I used to enjoy eating and dr…

Same man, be happy you didn’t get as far as me: seizures and dissociation.

It’s just plain drugs. Mass addiction. I mean, look at this thread, and replace coffee with anything else and it’s just junkies everywhere. I understand, but from the other side it’s weird to see.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by ErrorNoBrain »

pton_xd wrote: post #17
simojo wrote: post #16

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> Eat a [roasted] coffee bean by itself.

That was implied but it still doesn't make any sense. Eating dry tea leaves tastes nothing like drinking a cup of tea.

when you drink coffee you dont actually drink liquified beans

you just drink water which has super small ground up coffee particles in it...

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by jeffhuys »

anonu wrote: post #61
senectus1 wrote: post #54

I love coffee, black and without sugar. but something in my stomach decided over the last 10 years that i can no longer drink it. if I do I get IBS like issues :-( I used to be able to drink it 4-6 time a day no problems. I'd happily drink one before bed and sleep like a log. It didnt keep me awake it made me want to ignore that that it was time for bed. getting older sucks. much of what I used to enjoy eating and dr…

> 4-6 time a day no problems I think that was your problem. That seems like way too much coffee and caffeine.

It sneaks in though. I only knew I had a problem when I started getting seizures.

Didn’t start at 6 cups a day. That happened over years and years of easy and accepted access to the drug everywhere I went.

Having caffeine jitters is a joke in society. But it’s literally just overdosing on drugs. Just plain ordinary drugs.

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