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Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by lobal »

pembrook wrote: post #146
whaleofatw2022 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will dare say, it's a question of what happens to Mario's brother. Jury nullification in that is the best message that could be sent to the populace.

The fact that rich engineers on hacker news would be flirting with bolshevism as their ideology is just endlessly funny to me. I know it’s just people parroting the emotional “vibe” of their political tribe on any given day, but it’s so ironic. Beyond the obvious moral decay of cheering on murder at all, and the fact you’re in the privileged class of the richest nation on earth, the idea of targeting the replaceable…

> They actually have to keep costs sane for their system to continue existing.

That is also the case for US insurers. The only difference is if the government denies life saving treatments, people protest. If private insurers do so, people have no recourse.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by egorfine »

MegaButts wrote: post #45
egorfine wrote: post #6

> Partner with countries to help build in-country data center capacity. Except USA banned export of GPUs to like half of the European Union, let alone third-world countries.

Trump has announced plans to change that (this is news from today). https://archive.is/2eLzj > The Trump administration plans to rescind Biden-era AI chip curbs as part of a broader effort to revise semiconductor trade restrictions that have drawn strong opposition from major tech companies and foreign governments, according to people familiar with the matter.

Given any other US administration this would be a good news. This one? I genuinely have no idea.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by pembrook »

lobal wrote: post #161
pembrook wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that rich engineers on hacker news would be flirting with bolshevism as their ideology is just endlessly funny to me. I know it’s just people parroting the emotional “vibe” of their political tribe on any given day, but it’s so ironic. Beyond the obvious moral decay of cheering on murder at all, and the fact you’re in the privileged class of the richest nation on earth, the idea of targeting the replaceable…

> They actually have to keep costs sane for their system to continue existing. That is also the case for US insurers. The only difference is if the government denies life saving treatments, people protest. If private insurers do so, people have no recourse.

In both situations you have zero recourse. In fact the US Government is less responsive to protest than US businesses are.

US healthcare is one of the most complicated systems of adverse incentives and tangled byzantine public/private spiderwebs ever created. To kill random people involved at 15 layers of abstraction away from the actual root causes thinking that will somehow make it better is probably the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by rany_ »

sReinwald wrote: post #153
eksu wrote: post #19

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Not latencies, think data privacy / keeping queries and data from leaving sovereign borders. This way, if there is some local instance / everything is local than the datacenter and service are subject to local laws and regulations (and alternatively you're not subject to foriegn the laws and regulations (and agencies).

That's not quite correct. The "sovereignty" pitch here is largely illusory when dealing with a US-based company like OpenAI. The US CLOUD Act (Clarifying Lawful Overseas Use of Data Act) explicitly gives US authorities the power to compel US-based companies to provide data stored on servers, regardless of where those servers are physically located. This effectively undermines any meaningful data sovereignty claims. C…

It would also allow OpenAI to operate in countries that have state subsidized electricity and low wages.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by 47282847 »

soared wrote: post #98
mooreds wrote: post #54

On several of Tyler Cowen's recent podcasts, he has said essentially "there are really only two countries that have AI, China and the USA. Does this mean that other countries (like Peru) won't really have a functioning, powerful government when AI runs everything". See https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/chris-dixon/ > As you know, not many countries have serious AI companies, and even those in Europe may or…

IMO that analysis is shortsighted when looking at other technologies. Peru’s government would grind to a halt with say, windows/osx, excel, chrome, email etc. They are all tools that enable work. I don’t see AI being categorically different. In this hypothetical world where AI runs the treasury, is the US now in a massively better position to make treasury related decisions? Maybe? Does the US gov have a remote chanc…

> They are all tools that enable work. I don’t see AI being categorically different.

You don’t see the difference between a self-contained product, and a foreign subscription service with no influence over what it is delivering and the privacy and data sovereignty implications? Let alone the vast array of subtle manipulation possibilities in responses?

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by pornel »

MegaButts wrote: post #45
egorfine wrote: post #6

> Partner with countries to help build in-country data center capacity. Except USA banned export of GPUs to like half of the European Union, let alone third-world countries.

Trump has announced plans to change that (this is news from today). https://archive.is/2eLzj > The Trump administration plans to rescind Biden-era AI chip curbs as part of a broader effort to revise semiconductor trade restrictions that have drawn strong opposition from major tech companies and foreign governments, according to people familiar with the matter.

This doesn't mean anything. He won't get enough likes on Xitter tomorrow and will flip-flop to 1000% tariffs or whatever else comes to his senile mind.

This unstable circus of a government can't be trusted.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by staticman2 »

nicbou wrote: post #150
slg wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the most shocking aspects of this era of history is the number of people who not only end up accidentally resembling or aligning with the bad guys of our satire and dystopian fiction, but how many of them seem to be actively and intentionally pursuing that path. It's the Torment Nexus all the way down.

Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus (@AlexBlechman on twitter)

Sci-Fi Author: Inspired by human atrocities, I present to you my new novel: God Emperor of Dune.

Tech adjacent blogger: Hey guys here me out I love that we're building "starships" but it would also be spiffy if we end democracy and appoint a God Emperor!

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