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Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Re: Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Post by klabb3 »

keeganpoppen wrote: post #47
rurp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny seeing all of the comments trying to blame the users for this screwup by claiming they're using it wrong. It is reddit though, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

what is it about reddit that causes this behavior, when they otherwise are skeptical only of whatever the "official story" is at all costs? it is fascinating behavior.

One reason is lazy one liners are allowed and have high cost/benefit for shitposters and attract many upvotes, so this gets voted highly setting the tone for flamewars in the thread.

It’s miles better on HN. Most bad responses are penalized. The culture is upvoting things that are contributing. I frequently upvote responses that disagree with me. Oftentimes I learn something from it.

Re: Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Post by spartanatreyu »

ok_computer wrote: post #145

I have an uneasy feeling logging into a Text Editor vscode and seeing a Microsoft correlated account, work or personal, in the lower left corner. I understand that settings sync or whatever but it’d be preferred to keep to a simple config json or xml (pretty sure most settings are in json). I have no problem, however, pasting an encryption public key into my Sublime Text editor. I’m not completely turned off by abili…

As far as I can tell, the account is just for:

- github integration (e.g. git auth, sync text editor settings in private gist)

- a trusted third party server for negotiating p2p sessions with someone else (for pair programming, debugging over a call, etc...)

But anyone who wants to remove the microsoft/github account features from their editor entirely can just use vscodium instead.

Re: Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Post by kerkeslager »

warkdarrior wrote: post #146
jgb1984 wrote: post #125

LLM anything makes me queasy. Why would any self respecting software developer use this tripe? Learn how to write good software. Become an expert in the trade. AI anything will only dig a hole for software to die in. Cheapens the product, butchers the process and absolutely decimates any hope for skill development for future junior developers. I'll just keep chugging along, with debian, python and vim, as I always ha…

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Are you going to the bank to take out a loan? You're claiming you've outcompeted other programmers by using... optimizing compilers?

Re: Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Post by panny »

But look, AI did take a job today. The job of cursor product developers is gone now. ;) But seriously, every time I hear media telling me AI is going to replace us, they conveniently forget episodes like this. AI may take the jobs one day, but it doesn't seem like that day is any time soon when AI adopters keep getting burned.

Re: Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Post by [deleted] »

jgb1984 wrote: post #125

LLM anything makes me queasy. Why would any self respecting software developer use this tripe? Learn how to write good software. Become an expert in the trade. AI anything will only dig a hole for software to die in. Cheapens the product, butchers the process and absolutely decimates any hope for skill development for future junior developers. I'll just keep chugging along, with debian, python and vim, as I always ha…

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Re: Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Post by cachvico »

jgb1984 wrote: post #125

LLM anything makes me queasy. Why would any self respecting software developer use this tripe? Learn how to write good software. Become an expert in the trade. AI anything will only dig a hole for software to die in. Cheapens the product, butchers the process and absolutely decimates any hope for skill development for future junior developers. I'll just keep chugging along, with debian, python and vim, as I always ha…

I use it all the time, and it has accelerated my output massively.

Now, I don't trust the output - I review everything, and it often goes wrong. You have to know how to use it. But I would never go back. Often it comes up with more elegant solutions than I would have. And when you're working with a new platform, or some unfamiliar library that it already knows, it's an absolute godsend.

I'm also damn proud of my own hand-crafted code, but to avoid LLMs out of principal? That's just luddite.

20+ years of experience across game dev, mobile and web apps, in case you feel it relevant.

Re: Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Post by financypants »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #154
callc wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m pretty much in the same boat as you, but here’s one place that LLMs helped me: In python I was scanning 1000’s of files each for thousands of keywords. A naive implementation took around 10 seconds, obviously the largest share of execution time after running instrumentation. A quick ChatGPT led me to Aho-Corasick and String searching algorithms, which I had never used before. Plug in a library and bam, 30x speed…

> I could have asked my knowledgeable friends and coworkers, but not at 11PM on a Saturday. Get friends with weirder daily schedules. :-)

I think it's best if we all keep the hours from ~10pm to the morning sacred. Even if we are all up coding, the _reason_ I'm up coding at that hour is because no one is pinging me

Re: Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Post by schmichael »

yodsanklai wrote: post #131
ModernMech wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a huge problem. I just can't get past it and I get burned by it every time I try one of these products. Cursor in particular was one of the worst; the very first time I allowed it to look at my codebase, it hallucinated a missing brace (my code parsed fine), "helpfully" inserted it, and then proceeded to break everything. How am I supposed to trust and work with such a tool? To me, it seems like the equivalent o…

You're not supposed to trust the tool, you're supposed to review and rework the code before submitting for external review. I use AI for rather complex tasks. It's impressive. It can make a bunch of non-trivial changes to several files, and have the code compile without warnings. But I need to iterate a few times so that the code looks like what I want. That being said, I also lose time pretty regularly. There's a le…

> You're not supposed to trust the tool

This is just an incredible statement. I can't think of another development tool we'd say this about. I'm not saying you're wrong, or that it's wrong to have tools we can't just, just... wow... what a sea change.

Re: Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations

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Post by SkyPuncher »

jgb1984 wrote: post #125

LLM anything makes me queasy. Why would any self respecting software developer use this tripe? Learn how to write good software. Become an expert in the trade. AI anything will only dig a hole for software to die in. Cheapens the product, butchers the process and absolutely decimates any hope for skill development for future junior developers. I'll just keep chugging along, with debian, python and vim, as I always ha…

> Why would any self respecting software developer use this tripe?

Because I can ship 2x to 5x more code with nearly the same quality.

My employer isn't paying me to be a craftsman. They're paying me to ship things that make them money.

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