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Tech companies are telling immigrant employees on visas not to leave the U.S.

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Post by akimbostrawman »

watwut wrote: post #158
wruza wrote: post #156

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I see the reasoning. But assuming that the cultural threat is real for them, how would you state this problem without being a nazi? Is this possible in your "set of axioms"?

"Cultural threat" is not correct descriptor of "elimination of white race". They were talking about race war, you are trying to find words that make it non fascist. So, you will need to be precise about what your euphemism of "real cultural threat" means. If it means that they perceive Jews as the reason for "elimination of white race" as they said, then it is just being Nazi with all the logical consequences. Some p…

They did not mention a war. You can eliminate a race without a war or violence.

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Post by lurk2 »

ffsm8 wrote: post #157
lurk2 wrote: post #143

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China detained two Canadians for almost three years in retaliation for Canada cooperating on a US warrant for Meng Wanzhou. They can make you disappear in the way that people in this thread are pretending the Americans can. It is not safe to travel there.

> pretending the Americans can Pretending ? Dude, there are super public and well covered cases were the US did not only that but even worse, i.e. MEGAs illegal CEO abduction from their home soil in the 2010s for a particularly egregious example

> MEGAs illegal CEO abduction from their home soil in the 2010s for a particularly egregious example

I’m assuming you’re referring to Kim Dotcom since I can’t find any other reference to what you are describing. Kim was not abducted; he was arrested in by New Zealand police in 2012, and has since been fighting in court to avoid extradition to the United States. There was nothing illegal about this; it all went through the court system.

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Post by kragen »

OccamsMirror wrote: post #144
kragen wrote: post #129

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Australia is not famous for openness to immigration; people overseas are more likely to know about Pauline Hanson and the prison camps in Nauru.

We're pretty open to skilled migration. Especially from places like India.

Maybe that is true in reality, but I think a lot of people overseas have a different viewpoint. If they think it's false, they won't apply.

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Post by jimmydoe »

smt88 wrote: post #66

It's ironic that Silicon Valley's CEOs are now getting exactly what their candidate promised them. Where is the pushback against this from Musk and Ellison?

Tech right was in conflict with MAGA on H1B a few months ago, and they lost.

Vance recently tried to put a truce between them https://www.politico.com/newsletters/digital-future-daily/20...

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Post by jimmydoe »

pacomerh wrote: post #109
nice_byte wrote: post #82

at this point, what's even the point of immigrating here? if you're still young and haven't rooted yourself to this place (no family / house / significant other), I'd advise to leave and look to build a life in a different country. the best years of your life would be better lived elsewhere.

Yes that's true, I really don't know what the endgame is for this new admin. Growing up south of the border we always knew the beauty of this country was richness in cultural diversity. It seems like we're going backwards now?.

End game is to stay in power, to stay in power means to deliver your campaign promises to expel immigrants which is what trump is doing and, despite many here don’t like that, relatively well received by American public. https://www.axios.com/2025/03/31/trump-us-adults-approval-ra...

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Post by jimmydoe »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #36
orochimaaru wrote: post #19

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I'm not sure. The media is pointing out specific cases but the question is what % of travelers on visa made it in/out without trouble. There is heightened focus on enforcement. They may have trained their software to have a lower threshold of social media posts for entry. So, I do believe that you're at risk if you've made controversial statements not in line with what US considers as friendly behavior.

Or if you have a criminal conviction of any kind that is many years old and was known on the application that got you the visa, like the German and Filipina residents. So the rules have changed - they are now saying that visas valid at the time of approval should never have been approved based on the circumstances at the time.

Rules change every other day to keep deporting immigrants in the news, so American public believe trump is delivering his campaign promises which is against immigration. Whats funny here is deporting a legal German is much easier and 100x louder in the news than deporting “illegals”, that’s why in the end he’s deporting less in total than late stage Biden admin https://www.axios.com/2025/04/01/immigrant-removals-deportat...

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Post by em-bee »

piva00 wrote: post #154
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #147

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>what is really needed is a change in education. we need to teach the next generation that operating in good faith is absolutely essential for the future of mankind. How can mankind have any future at all, when education is one of the tools used to indoctrinate children into not wanting children of their own someday? The first priority of any society/civilization must always be that of making the next generation of p…

> How can mankind have any future at all, when education is one of the tools used to indoctrinate children into not wanting children of their own someday? The first priority of any society/civilization must always be that of making the next generation of people... or else that society/civilization will soon cease to exist. And we no longer hold that as a priority. Whatever the solution might be, I do not think that i…

absolutely. i just saw a documentary about that. south korea has a birthrate of 0.72. in a few generations the country will be full of elders in poverty because the pension funds have run out of money and there are not enough workers to replenish the funds.

https://youtu.be/Ufmu1WD2TSk

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Post by 93po »

nice_byte wrote: post #82

at this point, what's even the point of immigrating here? if you're still young and haven't rooted yourself to this place (no family / house / significant other), I'd advise to leave and look to build a life in a different country. the best years of your life would be better lived elsewhere.

There are still massive benefits to living and working in the US despite the fact that it's also uniquely problematic. Incomes for some/many areas of work are extremely high here compared to the rest of the world, and despite the narrative of corporate news that the world is literally on fire, the general day to day of most Americans is pretty unimpacted.

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Post by clydethefrog »

lurk2 wrote: post #137
TylerE wrote: post #127

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That the administration thinks they just just drag people into vans and ship them off to a foreign prison?

> That the administration thinks they just just drag people into vans and ship them off to a foreign prison? Can you point to a specific instance where this has occurred, and what laws you believe were broken? I'm not qualified to say if the El Salvador detention facilities are legal or not, but my understanding is that ICE has always had the authority to arrest illegal immigrants, and that a potential penalty for il…

Just be aware that if you accept that non-citizens have no right to due process, you are accepting that citizens have no right to due process. All the government has to do is claim that you are not a citizen; without due process you have no chance to prove the contrary. [1]

[1] https://bsky.app/profile/timothysnyder.bsky.social/post/3ll5...

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